Usually when we are full strength he is on the bench, don't agree with it though as he is too good not to be in the 13.

Our pack is very strong, but we are very inexperienced in the halfs and backs, think it will be a comfy win for you after a battling 1st half.

Things like this are causing me to rapidly fall out of love with our sport. We play the niggliest, dirtiest team in the comp, where every tackle makes you cringe with the third man coming in, chicken wings, flops galore, to say nothing of arm trapping, getting in the way of the PTB and moving off the mark, and this is the only piece of disciplinary action from the whole game?

I hope the neutrals hoping for a good game were disappointed becsuse all we got served was a Wane masterclass.

SMFH.

I share your view. The ing around on the floor, slowing the play the ball, obstructing a player but making it look like an accident, flops, 3rd man in, are all dull to watch.

The people to blame? referees for allowing it.

The "late" 3rd man into the tackle is a real problem and sorting that out alone would speed up play. Perhaps players taking 3 days for a GLDO should be punished as well, rather than stopping the clock penalise them...a penalty 10 metres out would soon sort that nonsense.

Immediate yellow for anyone diving to the ground to give the impression they have been pushed when trying to play the ball

I agree.
Too much of it this weekend. It was like a Jurgen Klinsmann fest.

I think the most disapointing thing with Wigans tactics was how we dealt with them .
If there sticking 3 men in a tackle and flopping with the fourth and getting away with it . It means their line is nice and set for when we are trying to run our forwards in and getting them smashed .
There are at least 4 coaches watching that at any one time and not one of them came up with the idea to do the exact same thing ourselves? Bad times

Like watching a fish out of water flapping around in the middle of the ruck

We would never have DC on the pitch if they yellow carded that

nothing for Marshall! Beggars belief. Total B0ll0cks.

Other crap we are seeing now.

1. Forwards regularly not even being in the scrum.
2. LF doesn't have head in scrum.
3. Ref allowing dissent (used to be 10 yard advance).
4. Defending players feigning injury before drop out on repeat set to give defence a breather.
5. 3/4 man tackles with slow motion peel off, often clumsily to impede attacking play.
6. Players actively looking for penalties rather than playing the game (this is not Rugby Union)

2) is probably a reaction to the stupid "ball not out" penalty
3) March them 10 at 1st sign of dissent, that would soon sort that out. The captain seeking "clarification" has turned into a conversation, get on with the game
4) The GLDO should have a "shot clock" like NRL
5) This plus late flop by last "tackler" is killing the speed of the game
6) Modern curse, play the game and let the ref ref! Of course a repeat set is so important that you can understand teams doing this but it's as annoying as saddle sores.

Oh another thing

7) Police offside accurately and fairly. So many players offside before the ball hits the ground in the play the ball. This limits space to the attacking side and adds to the dullathon.

I get very annoyed by refs being over familiar and coaching instead of reffing. Maybe I am a traditionalist but call the players by their team name and number and penalize rather than advise. So no more "Lockers (or Benny..or ..) , you are offside, could you please get back" - Just "13 offside penalty"....and no more Move calls

Back on topic.
Will he be missed?
Well, judging by his effort on Saturday, not really.
As I said on the match day thread, he's morphing into Danny Lima.
Time for him to find some of that April form, again

According to the guardian it’s looks likely Cooper will miss the game, along with Goodwin, Sita & Crosby. Leaves us seriously short in the prop department.

King will have to feature again, with maybe Moran coming in - would that be his SL debut?

Ratch
Charnley
Atkins
Brown/Pomeroy
Lineham
Brown
Roberts
Hill
Clark
King
Livett
Hughes
Westwood

Patton
Philbin
BMM
Moran

BMM to play more 13 than 2nd row in this one? With decent minutes from Hill as usual and Westwood...?

This. 100% this.

Rather have Akualoa and his Lima impression than G. King to be honest.

We have to guard against the magic loss turning into a losing run, which could see the good work wiped out!

Suddenly we look very under powered at prop. I guess missing 3 front line props does that to a team.

Looks very grim.

This is the chance for King to say - "Right, I'm going to have the game of my life to show what I can do".

We are missing Talanoa, Griffin, Faraimo, Tuimavave, Kelly, Sneyd, Taylor, Bowden and Fash for Friday. Even though you have a few props out, I think you will put a large score on us.

Yes, I think it would be Moran's SL debut. And let's face it, if he can't get into the 17 when three props are missing, you would have to question why he's taking up a squad place.

Absolutely. Moran seems to have been on the fringes for some time now, so this is the time to make an impact. George King is clearly never going to progress into the kind of forward we need so it's an opportunity for someone else to do so.

We have 4 of our first choice pack missing. Plus Goodwin as well. Not confident about Friday one bit. Hull with a 16 start at the bookies looks VERY tempting!!