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| To be fair the argument about Ben Currie playing more rugby than the Wigans chaps isn't that clever....he may have had more appearances but he hasn't played more rugby!!!
Ben Currie has done very little in most of the games he has played this season he is the most disappointing "next big thing" I have ever seen.
.... And its the off season so I can say what I want before anyone a bit precious chips in...
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"By the length of this thread talking about Mossop and other Pies, god speed next season asap.
Is that all we have to debate?.. probably the worst topic this year but we're still hanging on to it!!'"
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| Irony that fmc has chosen to respond with animation.
I will receive that as a complement even though it probably wasn't intended as so.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Irony that fmc has chosen to respond with animation.'"
that's not irony at all haha
it is funny though.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"To be fair the argument about Ben Currie playing more rugby than the Wigans chaps isn't that clever....he may have had more appearances but he hasn't played more rugby!!!
Ben Currie has done very little in most of the games he has played this season he is the most disappointing "next big thing" I have ever seen.
.... And its the off season so I can say what I want before anyone a bit precious chips in...'"
I also dont see it either... but he is young and hopefully he will develop.
I'm in a bit of a quandry this coming season, as the 2 players that frustrated me were Riley and Waterhouse... Smith has got rid of both of them now... so im either going to love everyone.. or im going to find another escaped goat.
Currie needs to book his ideas up... as players im critical off don't fare that well when the axe swings
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"that's not irony at all haha
it is funny though.'"
It's irony as fmc has chosen not to involve himself verbally in this thread while dishing me in animation, in doing so but his animation meant he agrees even if he hadn't meant it.
I'll also except that from you too mdc and you obviously don't see it.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"It's irony as fmc has chosen not to involve himself verbally in this thread while dishing me in animation, in doing so but his animation meant he agrees even if he hadn't meant it.
I'll also except that from you too mdc and you obviously don't see it.'"
Again... its not irony
can you guess at why cat used an irony meter when he quoted your post? or dont you see it?
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| It's irony.
Imo so agree to disagree..
Moving on you also agree with me as you repeat what I said on another thread.
Thanks again and I except your compliment whether you meant it or not.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"It's irony.
Imo so agree to disagree..
Moving on you also agree with me as you repeat what I said on another thread.
Thanks again and I except your compliment whether you meant it or not.'"
In that case....i will take your avoidance of the question as an admission that you didn't know why he used it.
now THATS irony.
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| There was no question from fmc
Perhaps you mis-read
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"great site lads....'"
I'm lost on this thread. You got that axe handy Morleys?
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"I'm lost on this thread. You got that axe handy Morleys?'"
its right next to my Valium mate.
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| It's like Raaaaaayyyeeeaaaain on your wedding day.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
And haven't Wire just employed Wigans former assistant to head up their strength and conditioning team?'"
Now - THAT'S IRONY
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| Not really is it, he doesn't get to say who plays week in week out, he just conditions them, guess he'll be doing less work here when the guys he has to work with don't have biscuit shoulders
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Now - THAT'S IRONY
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No, that's called getting a better job
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"In an attempt to move this along. Props at Academy level are notoriously difficult to handle. Very few make it to the senior game. Many of the props in Super League started as second rowers or even in the backs (Morley, Peacock, Clubb).
I suspect that a trawl through the Warrington books over the last ten years won't produce many prop forwards who are still playing at the top level.
But I've tried to come up with Wigan's forwards (second row or prop). So here goes -
Crosby
Farrell
Burke
O'Loughlin
Hock
Hansen
Tomkins
O'Carroll
Kavanagh
Mossop
Allen
Jewitt
Wild
And the ones who retired early - Prescot and Hargreaves. Not sure what happened to Davies at Widnes.
Ok, so prove that Wire are better.'"
To PY,
I posted this yesterday. So far, no-one has taken me up (and please don't come back with"I haven't got time" because that took me about 5 minutes and no doubt I've forgotten or missed others).
Am I to take it that you concede defeat and that your spurious argument/theory holds no water?
Regards AUOP
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Now - THAT'S IRONY
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And they've signed Gary Wheeler. Did he play too much rugby (no even I can't suggest that) too young?
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"To PY,
I posted this yesterday. So far, no-one has taken me up (and please don't come back with"I haven't got time" because that took me about 5 minutes and no doubt I've forgotten or missed others).
Am I to take it that you concede defeat and that your spurious argument/theory holds no water?
Regards AUOP'"
Jesus Christ I've asked which Wigan props (including the "fourth" prop playing at 13 if you like) have had careers where they have improved as they matured rather than their careers dipping due to injuries, if you answer that I'll consider responding to your query by siting examples such as Mike Cooper and Ben Harrison amongst others.
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| Pretty sure you'll be able to add Ben Evans to that list as well PY. I think Wane has their interests at heart now though as he's managed to give Flower a pretty decent rest in order to give him some prospect of longevity.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Jesus Christ I've asked which Wigan props (including the "fourth" prop playing at 13 if you like) have had careers where they have improved as they matured rather than their careers dipping due to injuries, if you answer that I'll consider responding to your query by siting examples such as Mike Cooper and Ben Harrison amongst others.'"
Paul, sorry if I've got hold of the wrong end of the stick here. I tried to answer your question with a list. Most of them have improved with age, even someone like O'Carroll is plying his trade in super League week in and week out. You suggest that Wigan props are played too often too young, but I can't find any evidence to support that. You may indeed be right, but who do you mean? You call them robots, so maybe I've missed some.
I feel that you made an outlandish statement - that Wigan don't look after their props very well, that they are disposable, that their careers end early or are so busted up that they don't improve - but that you can't support it with names. Instead of just admitting that you might have over reacted you have clung on despite no evidence.
IT'S NOT UP TO ME TO DISPROVE YOUR THEORY, IT'S FOR YOU TO PROVE IT in the first place. Now tell us who you are referring to. Please.
(And by the way, I'm not really interested in point scoring here, if Wire have produced props like Harrison and Cooper and looked after them, them good for them. If Wigan have not cared about their players welfare then that's really bad. If you give me some names and you are right then I'll apologise and concede - is that reasonable?)
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Jesus Christ I've asked which Wigan props (including the "fourth" prop playing at 13 if you like) have had careers where they have improved as they matured rather than their careers dipping due to injuries, if you answer that I'll consider responding to your query by siting examples such as Mike Cooper and Ben Harrison amongst others.'"
I don't know why you entertain these pedantic prats who have nothing better to do than trawl through other clubs boards to discuss the ins and outs of a cat's backside.
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| Quote ="wireone"I don't know why you entertain these pedantic prats who have nothing better to do than trawl through other clubs boards to discuss the ins and outs of a cat's backside.'"
I was under the impression that it was a forum for Rugby league discussion.
What is it that you don't like - A Wigan fan attempting to discuss matters that relate to Wigan (take a look at the title of the thread) or that I along with a few other Wigan fans have exposed his 'theory' as stupid?
You obviously aren't comfortable taking your place in the wider world beyond Warrington, so I'll leave you now to discuss next years kit or your top 5 Super League era players or whether next year really is going to be the Year of the Wolf
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| Quote ="wireone"I don't know why you entertain these pedantic prats who have nothing better to do than trawl through other clubs boards to discuss the ins and outs of a cat's backside.'"
see somebody does get it.
As I said like reverse trolling or this board has been worded up as wire incorrectly.
I can't think why I and a few other wire fans on here would want to post about wire rugby on a pie board.
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