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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The best Wire have played all season, was strangely when we were thread bare in the forwards yet through adversity 7 games of total domination of all comers and Myler was nowhere near the team!
6&7...R&B.'"
I can't be bothered checking the fixture list, but, what was the quality of these "all comers"? From my recollection, we had a tough start fixture-wise and our form was dodgy. Bradford away was perhaps the most disappointing game I've been to in a considerable time and a low point for this squad. This was followed by run of games, but, did we play anyone of any real merit during this time of "total domination"?
You can only beat what's in front of you and your R&B argument is valid in that it got us back on track, but, I don't think the times were as difficult as you are making out.
I would like Myler to stay and agree with others who think he's a scapegoat because of the fee and expectation. There's a dearth of HB quality generally in the game and an injury-free season will do him the world of good.
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| Perhaps I can help you to cast your mind back UR.
2 teams sitting pretty near the top of the league, Leeds at home and Saints at Eithad.
Wire put up around 40 on each of them. At that time Leeds hardly had had 40 put against them all that early season.
Wire absolutely battered Leeds.
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| I think it's the fee and expectation that came with it. If he had come up through the ranks it would be a different story.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps I can help you to cast your mind back UR.
2 teams sitting pretty near the top of the league, Leeds at home and Saints at Eithad.
Wire put up around 40 on each of them. At that time Leeds hardly had had 40 put against them all that early season.
Wire absolutely battered Leeds.'"
but all the other teams we beat in that run - with the exception of the not so well traveled Catalan - failed to make the top eight, two of the sides were even relegated. so in a ten match run seven teams were out of the top 8.
compared to 2011 when we went on an even bigger run of 11 superleague games unbeaten only 4 of those sides were out of the top 8 and one of those teams was Catalan Away....I cant be bothered looking but I'll be surprised if Myler wasn't scrum half for all of those and Chris bridge was centre
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps I can help you to cast your mind back UR.
2 teams sitting pretty near the top of the league, Leeds at home and Saints at Eithad.
Wire put up around 40 on each of them. At that time Leeds hardly had had 40 put against them all that early season.
Wire absolutely battered Leeds.'"
We won 24-6.
Myler came off the bench.
Myler had two try assists.
Michael Monaghan was our top attacking kicker that day with 3; Bridge had 2, Myler 1 and Ratch 0.
Bridge scored 2 tries and had 3 clean breaks; Myler had a clean break too.
That match was all about running from dummy half - we had 61 in that match, which must surely be a very high figure; it feels it.
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| We also went to Castleford with Bridge in the halves and were absolutely trounced and he was awful at 6.
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| My point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.
When we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.
I expected us to get knocked out in the cc.
TS fixed what wasn't broke.
Get your head out of the sand and smell the custard.
Do some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.
IMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.
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| This Story Now On BBC website, May have some Legs . With a bit of Luck .
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| Hull KR want him on a season long lone.
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| Quote ="Big Dave 3"Not going anywhere!'"
Quote ="The Biffs Back"This is a 100% Guaranteed done deal
Hull KR really wanted a permanent deal and not a loan arrangement'"
one of you will have egg on their face
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"My point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.
When we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.
I expected us to get knocked out in the cc.
TS fixed what wasn't broke.
Get your head out of the sand and smell the custard.
Do some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.
IMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.'"
Could someone please explain this post to me, or is it really time for me to put on the sleeveless overcoat?
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| Ratchford at halfback; that's funny.
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| Struth I give up.
Too many short memories.
Taxi!
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Could someone please explain this post to me, or is it really time for me to put on the sleeveless overcoat?'"
[iMy point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.[/i
= Quantum mechanics is essentially a discussion of probability rather than certainty. Rather than the certainty of 1, you have to think in terms of fractions.
[iWhen we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.[/i
= Small breast enlargements are tricky to perform and don't match up to the real thing.
[iTS fixed what wasn't broke.[/i
= Clearly a riddle, probably stolen from Frodo in Lord of The Rings.
[iGet your head out of the sand and smell the custard.[/i
= **^1! "{PP)(*$$WW
[iDo some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.[/i
= Even though you can not predict the exact position of an electron via quantum mechanics, it's better than knowing nothin.
[iIMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.[/i
I think this is a reference to Dita's avatar
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"What?'"
I think he is trying to say you are far too intellectual for the majority on here ......
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"[iMy point us only R&B in the half's, not other combinations.[/i
= Quantum mechanics is essentially a discussion of probability rather than certainty. Rather than the certainty of 1, you have to think in terms of fractions.
[iWhen we dabbled with that pair after the initial 6 or 7 win began to be less convincing and I considered us to be stumbling the wins.[/i
= Small breast enlargements are tricky to perform and don't match up to the real thing.
[iTS fixed what wasn't broke.[/i
= Clearly a riddle, probably stolen from Frodo in Lord of The Rings.
[iGet your head out of the sand and smell the custard.[/i
= **^1! "{PP)(*$$WW
[iDo some of you seriously think all the other half combinations was better than R&B in 2014.[/i
= Even though you can not predict the exact position of an electron via quantum mechanics, it's better than knowing nothin.
[iIMO they were the best pairing in SL never mind Wire.[/i
I think this is a reference to Dita's avatar'"
haha.. best post on here in ages
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| This is very strange. Why would Hull KR want him when they've just signed up two half backs and why would we want to release him for a next season? The fact that it's on BBC website makes you think there is something in it. The report only says that HKR are "interested in signing" ... which doesn't really say much. Wouldn't have thought that it's a great career move playing for HKR! (sorry HKR).
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| If he's only got a year left on contract, then isn't letting him out on a year long loan, a bit like letting him leave for free ?
Doesn't seem to make good financial sense.
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| What difference does it really make?
The times of contracts fees are more or less over.
Am I not right in thinking a loan deal can be instigated by the club?
If the club were wanting to sell, then wouldn't the player plus new club terms need to be met before completion?
Unless a loadsamoney comes in, who really wants him, but I can't see that happening. There's only the Doc able to do so and he doesn't want him.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"If he's only got a year left on contract, then isn't letting him out on a year long loan, a bit like letting him leave for free ?
Doesn't seem to make good financial sense.'"
Kind of but no, the players existing contract may be met by the new club, in full or in part.
It's almost a sale in its own right. If RM is on a £100,000 per annum for example, that is a huge saving, is it not?
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Please can we stop with this idea of shunting players around who are not good enough for their principal position just to accomodate them?
Myler to hooker and Atkins to second row being just two. If Myler isn't good enough for half-back, goodbye Myler. If Atkins isn't good enough for centre, tara Ryan. I can count on one hand the number of times these things work, that the player actually improves or enhances his abilities by such a move - Westwood, Gary Mercer ...... and now I'm struggling.'"
So are we saying that players can not develop into other positions, and therfore are finished if there form dips, or the coach sees something in their game as they get older that could be utilised elsewhere. We have 2 typical exmples in our squad this season in Monas and Higham, both started life at half backs and have emerged at the other end of the carerer as hookers. It happens all the time as players get older and their attributes change. Chev Walker played most of his life on the wing and is now doing well as a prop, as has Tony Club.
Myler has all the traits of a good hooker, he has vision and speed and a good work rate. He is able to dummy and go and has a great passing game. Why not develop as a hooker if the coach wants a creative 7.
The proof is in the history at every club, players develop and change positions all the time.
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| He may develop into a hooker but do we need another?
Would he be so much better at it that we look for other clubs to loan out Higham Clark and Dwyer again?
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| Quote ="marshman777"So are we saying that players can not develop into other positions, and therfore are finished if there form dips, or the coach sees something in their game as they get older that could be utilised elsewhere. We have 2 typical exmples in our squad this season in Monas and Higham, both started life at half backs and have emerged at the other end of the carerer as hookers. It happens all the time as players get older and their attributes change. Chev Walker played most of his life on the wing and is now doing well as a prop, as has Tony Club.
Myler has all the traits of a good hooker, he has vision and speed and a good work rate. He is able to dummy and go and has a great passing game. Why not develop as a hooker if the coach wants a creative 7.
The proof is in the history at every club, players develop and change positions all the time.'"
not sure higham did start out as a half.
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| The ONLY positive I can find, if this story is true (and not Myler's No1 fan), is that we MUST have someone lined up and we're offloading cap space.
There's no logic for me otherwise in offloading him
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