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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"What is the issue with Carney? We are down a winger, it is that simple. Johnson is full of application, but isn't particularly effective, King looks more comfortable back at centre, Riley is more effective at fullback. For whatever reason, Penny is back in the reserves with an imminent return looking unlikely. A winger would be a healthy addition, to a threequartrer line that looks a little lethargic, whilst not forgetting weare down a fullback and centre in Reardon and Gleeson. '"
not really since we signed full back Richie Mathers. And Bridge seems to have returned fully from his serious injury to look like a very accomplished Centre....
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"His hamstrings stood him in good stead at Newcastle.'"
But it was after he had finished playing for Newcastle that he picked up his hamstring injury whilst playing for GB at the end of 2006, maybe it was an injury waiting to happen and a matter of when and not if.
Hamstring injuries are something which are very hard to recover from, just ask Lee Briers or Ryan Giggs for an opinion on the subject, once you have an hamstring injury thats gone a few times its as if they stay with you until the next time that you slightly over do it.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Gavin Henson.'"
Why would we want a pretty boy who always gets injured?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Apart from Trotsky?'"
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Hamstring injuries are something which are very hard to recover from, just ask Lee Briers or Ryan Giggs for an opinion on the subject, once you have an hamstring injury thats gone a few times its as if they stay with you until the next time that you slightly over do it.'"
Very true. The troubles that 35 year old, current PFA Player of the Year Ryan Giggs has had with his hamstrings has wrecked his 800+ appearances career at Man Utd.
What a player he could have been without those blasted hamstrings, we'll just never know.
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| theres no way we are gonna sign brian carney, its ridiculous, why dont the coaching staff work their backsides off in tryin to turn kevin pennys defence around, because if we got him right then theres potential there to be one of the best wingers, i cant see him progressing much if he stays in the reserves
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| Quote ="stringers_wolves"theres no way we are gonna sign brian carney, its ridiculous, why dont the coaching staff work their backsides off in tryin to turn kevin pennys defence around, because if we got him right then theres potential there to be one of the best wingers, i cant see him progressing much if he stays in the reserves'"
Maybe he should go out on loan?
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"Maybe he should go out on loan?'"
could be a good idea, needs to start gain more experiance in 1st team rugby
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| Great signing of crocker . that was much needed.
Souths should now set their sights on trying to get Crockers ex Storm team mate Matt King for 2010. Apparently he is unhappy in th UK and wants to return to the NRL. He would be perfect next to Best in the centres.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Very true. The troubles that 35 year old, current PFA Player of the Year Ryan Giggs has had with his hamstrings has wrecked his 800+ appearances career at Man Utd.
What a player he could have been without those blasted hamstrings, we'll just never know.'"
12 starting appearances this season though.......
its like a gradual retirement plan that some companies do, isnt it...?
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| Quote ="fredie"Great signing of crocker . that was much needed.
Souths should now set their sights on trying to get Crockers ex Storm team mate Matt King for 2010. Apparently he is unhappy in th UK and wants to return to the NRL. He would be perfect next to Best in the centres.
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| Quote ="JWP"You insinuated (wrongly) that we'd get a fee for him.'" No i didn,t! i insuated no such thing. quoting myself 'Let him go! and IF we got money for him ' where is the insinuation? .If you need it explaining - I am happy to let paul johnson go and if Wigan wanted him this season and had to buy out the rest of his contract then that's a bonus.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Very true. The troubles that 35 year old, current PFA Player of the Year Ryan Giggs has had with his hamstrings has wrecked his 800+ appearances career at Man Utd.
What a player he could have been without those blasted hamstrings, we'll just never know.'"
The reason Ryan Giggs career has been prolonged is because United have managed his hamstring injury well, over the years especially since Nani and Evre arrived Giggs has been starting on the bench more and more just like in the 2008 Champions league final where he only came on as a sub at the end with just a few minutes remaining.
More often than not Ronaldo and Park usually start wide left and wide right and they switch round during the game, Rooney has also been playing wide left where United have seen some of his best form.
United have always had a massive squad thats full of quality so they can afford to rest Giggs or any other player as they always have cover, can we do the same with Lee Briers by simply resting him on a regular basis when he isn`t even injured to protect his hamstring ?
Can we afford to start Lee Briers on the bench on a regular basis to again give his hamstring a rest ?
Anyway, why do we need Brian Carney who is a RIGHT winger when we have just given Chris Hicks a RIGHT winger a new contract ?
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| wonder how long wigan can hang onto sam tomkins he wants to play in nrl
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| Colin Best is a good player, he scored stacks for Hull and since he left Hull he's had a good scoring record in the NRL. Similar standard to Hicks.
Regarding Penny going on loan, not sure what this would do, he's played two seasons in the first team so its not like he needs experience of playing in the first team, surely its better he's here working under the guidance of Tony Smith, if that means being in the reserves for a bit then fair enough. If he goes on loan to Salford or whoever he'll just play in a team which loses most weeks, gets targeted, gets slagged off by fans, and will come back to us in a negative mind frame.
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| I think they can work with Kev Penny, he does have pace to burn and playing in the reserves in the short term won't do him too much harm. But feel he needs to work with the coaches to improve those areas he lacks in.....every player has areas they can work on.....He's a good lad Kev and derserves the opportunity to continue his development if in the long run that does mean a period out on loan, so be it.....as long as it does develop him....He is too good a prospect to let go altogether.....Still feel he was the scape goat in those early loss's warrington had........
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Colin Best is a good player, he scored stacks for Hull and since he left Hull he's had a good scoring record in the NRL. Similar standard to Hicks.
Regarding Penny going on loan, not sure what this would do, he's played two seasons in the first team so its not like he needs experience of playing in the first team, surely its better he's here working under the guidance of Tony Smith, if that means being in the reserves for a bit then fair enough. If he goes on loan to Salford or whoever he'll just play in a team which loses most weeks, gets targeted, gets slagged off by fans, and will come back to us in a negative mind frame.'" Penny's Warrington career is over ,he isn't good enough to play in SL ,Hence why he doesn't get a game for us now ,we should loan him out until his contract runs out and spend the money saved on a good winger in his place,just because he is from warrington doesn't mean he has a right to play if your not good enough your not good enough and he isn't END OFF !
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| Quote ="gogreen"I think they can work with Kev Penny, he does have pace to burn harm. But feel he needs to work with the coaches to improve those areas he lacks in.....every player has areas they can work on.....He's a good lad Kev and derserves the opportunity to continue his development if in the long run that does mean a period out on loan, so be it.....as long as it does develop him....He is too good a prospect to let go altogether.....Still feel he was the scape goat in those early loss's warrington had........'" The last few times I have seen him put through he has been caught so I don't see where your statement of pace to burn comes from !
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"The last few times I have seen him put through he has been caught so I don't see where your statement of pace to burn comes from !'"
I'm guessing you've missed all of his tries then?
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| Quote ="Mark"I'm guessing you've missed all of his tries then?'"
More inclined to believe he is totally clueless.
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"The last few times I have seen him put through he has been caught so I don't see where your statement of pace to burn comes from !'"
Try looking at some of the trys he has scored in SL, people are too quick to right a player off, just because they have a little bad spell, no one would be playing SL at all if we did that with every player
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"Penny's Warrington career is over ,he isn't good enough to play in SL ,Hence why he doesn't get a game for us now ,we should loan him out until his contract runs out and spend the money saved on a good winger in his place,just because he is from warrington doesn't mean he has a right to play if your not good enough your not good enough and he isn't END OFF !'"
i dont agree with that but if he has not improved by the start of next season then i think it will be time to say goodbye
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| Quote ="the original stevo"wonder how long wigan can hang onto sam tomkins he wants to play in nrl'"
Are you avin a laugh, he isn't even proven in SL yet
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| Quote ="SPIRIT OF 74"The last few times I have seen him put through he has been caught so I don't see where your statement of pace to burn comes from !'"
If you don't think Kevin Penny has pace to burn, who in RL do you think has?
Another clueless post.
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