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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"who was dismissed from their job again?'"
NRL CEO, David Gallop, described the events leading to Monaghan's dismissal as sad for all concerned. "Joel has today paid a heavy price .........
From Google Search keywords 'Joel Monaghon, dismissal'
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I said at the time that most people have done worse when drunk! '"
Are you sure? Where do you go drinking? Widnes?
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| Quote ="piemuncher"NRL CEO, David Gallop, described the events leading to Monaghan's dismissal as sad for all concerned. "Joel has today paid a heavy price .........
From Google Search keywords 'Joel Monaghon, dismissal''"
WRONG
he was 'released' by the club after a meeting with them.
[iThe representative centre sought a release from the final two-years of his contract, which the club agreed to.[/i
Doesn't sound like a sacking to me.
(and yes I am well aware he jumped before he was pushed....it still wasn't dismissal though.)
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"WRONG
he was 'released' by the club after a meeting with them.
[iThe representative centre sought a release from the final two-years of his contract, which the club agreed to.[/i
Doesn't sound like a sacking to me.
(and yes I am well aware he jumped before he was pushed....it still wasn't dismissal though.)'"
I see - that obviously makes it ok then, otherwise you wouldn't labour the point. Great viewpoint to take, and as for the earlier loon who argued that we all have done worse when drunk - where does he live? Gomorra?
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| Quote ="piemuncher"I see - that obviously makes it ok then, otherwise you wouldn't labour the point. Great viewpoint to take,
and as for the earlier loon who argued that we all have done worse when drunk - where does he live? Gomorra?
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WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF'"
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| Quote ="piemuncher":32enbtcoI see - that obviously makes it ok then, otherwise you wouldn't labour the point. Great viewpoint to take,
and as for the earlier loon who argued that we all have done worse when drunk - where does he live? Gomorra?
'" ) and jon clarke who is a great servant of rugby league and went to prison at a very young age and has more than paid his due to society.
As I have said when I disagree with a decison made by the club, that also defies my ethics (as you claim your club has done) I will be a man of my principles and take action. I will not implicently sit back a pay the club, while also claiming the high ground. You can not do that, sorry. It makes you a hypocrite.
Also, I am on my telephone and I can't read the screen too well. So I may miss somethings. Sorry. But, if that is all you have against me; fine!
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| Well this thread looks like it may be heading in an oh so predictable direction. Seeing as i'm here, 7 inches.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Dirty dirty Hock more spare time for the coke head'"
Absoulutely no need for that, your the type that needs banning from these boards. Grow up.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Did you see Morley on Finch, same old dirty Morley giving away penalties, how you can take inspiration for your avatar from him i don't know MD
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To be honest, I dont know how Morley has got away with that on Finch, the first attempt was a blatent attack to Finch's head, the only reason it hasnt been put on report was because Finch carried on like nothing had happened I think.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I. No one was hurt [not even the dog) and jon clarke who is a great servant of rugby league and went to prison at a very young age and has more than paid his due to society.
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And Gareth Hock made a silly mistake at an also young age by taking a drug which is "rife" on the streets of Britain these days but certain posters on this board think it is appropriate to label him all sorts of disgusting insults.
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| Quote ="21-12"And Gareth Hock made a silly mistake at an also young age by taking a drug which is "rife" on the streets of Britain these days but certain posters on this board think it is appropriate to label him all sorts of disgusting insults.'"
Rife or not, it's still illegal, and as he's a proven drug user, I guess calling him an ex coke head is factually correct.
I think most of the aggro that head's Hock's way is born from the frustration that this guy could have been our next big export (or best thing in SL) if he was a tad more professional.
A focussed Hock would get into any SL team and alot of NRL, however, he has let himself down and turned out to be a bit of a big time Charlie.
I have more pity than anything for him, his raw talent could have set him & his family up for a decent life.
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| Quote ="Philth"Rife or not, it's still illegal, and as he's a proven drug user, I guess calling him an ex coke head is factually correct.
I think most of the aggro that head's Hock's way is born from the frustration that this guy could have been our next big export (or best thing in SL) if he was a tad more professional.
A focussed Hock would get into any SL team and alot of NRL, however, he has let himself down and turned out to be a bit of a big time Charlie.
I have more pity than anything for him.'"
Cant argue with what you have said, the point I was making was that the other poster used the "forgive and forget" method when discussing Jon Clarke and the prison sentence, however this attitude seems to be different when its Hock just because its "drugs".
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| Quote ="21-12"Cant argue with what you have said, the point I was making was that the other poster used the "forgive and forget" method when discussing Jon Clarke and the prison sentence, however this attitude seems to be different when its Hock just because its "drugs".'"
Welcome to the ever decreasing standard of these rugby forums.
I really do not envy the mod's job, it gets boring with all the O/T digs and useless arguements
(And yes, I know this topic started as a Tomkins Kick and I've ended up talking about Hock. When in rome )
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| Quote ="21-12"Cant argue with what you have said, the point I was making was that the other poster used the "forgive and forget" method when discussing Jon Clarke and the prison sentence, however this attitude seems to be different when its Hock just because its "drugs".'"
Maybe some people rate drugs as being worse... maybe he just doesn't like Hock because he seems a nutter on the pitch as well as off it, get over yourself.
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| Quote ="21-12"And Gareth Hock made a silly mistake at an also young age by taking a drug which is "rife" on the streets of Britain these days but certain posters on this board think it is appropriate to label him all sorts of disgusting insults.'"
Do you know clarke did?
I don't want to get into widgey measuring or anything but I would like to explain myself.
Firstly hock was a successful wigan player (wasn't young in terms of rugby league) when he took drugs (and bringing the game in disrapute) and has admited to have taken drugs several times. Completely different to what clarke did.
Secondly, hock has already embarassed himself on a rugby field since his return. Something clarke has never done.
However the point remains that the issue stemmed from centralpark's attempt to claim the morale high ground regarding hock (as well as trying to bring the name of great servants to the game through the mud) as well as defending him! If you don't think clarke or joel should play again. Don't pay to see them if they come to wigan or something!
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| 8 inches on the flop.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I am gonna take slim (I think)'s advice and stop replying to obvious pie trolls.
However, I am glad you concede you are a hypocrite. The more alarming thing is you have so far compared hock (a drug taking thug) with one of this countries best exports and agreat example of the game, a stand out player who's only crime is getting drunk and imitating a sexual act on a dog. (I'm sure there are many on here who have done more than imitate with some right dogs. Also I never said I had done worse but I am a bit of a prune amd don't binge drink. However it was harmless. No one was hurt [not even the dog) and jon clarke who is a great servant of rugby league and went to prison at a very young age and has more than paid his due to society.
As I have said when I disagree with a decison made by the club, that also defies my ethics (as you claim your club has done) I will be a man of my principles and take action. I will not implicently sit back a pay the club, while also claiming the high ground. You can not do that, sorry. It makes you a hypocrite.
Sorry Mr Sanctimonious, you just cant get your head around the fact that your team (like others) has some ne'r do wells plying their trade within it.
You really do have bad eyes if you think that JM was imitating. You dont have to look to hard on the web to see what happened.
An abysmally immoral act, but hey he plays for Warrington so its ok. Where are your wonderful ethics now?
Think its time you looked a bit deeper in your own back yard.
Hock was stupid and should have been finished off, but unfortunately he wasnt, by, incidentally higher authority than Wigan. What I can do about that, eh?
There are others playing right now in Super League who have been banned for drug taking. A cursory sweep of your boards history shows no such venom towards them. Why? Because they dont play for Wigan? Are all the fans of their clubs hypocrites too?
Perhaps you are just a Wigan hater, with nothing else in your life, stroking your white cat in your armchair, sporting a gnarled expression.
And a massive hypocrite. Follow your own advice.
Go and burn your shirt.
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You don't think its the eye gouging that has led to people bringing up Hocks druggy "past"..... just that he plays for Wigan right?
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| Quote ="Ron"Piemuncher...
You don't think its the eye gouging that has led to people bringing up Hocks druggy "past"..... just that he plays for Wigan right?
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The eye gouging just puts the tin hat on it for me. Should never have played again. Cowardly act that no right minded person can defend, Wigan or not. It wasnt just that either, he then tried to lay the bloke out. What the hell?
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| Quote ="piemuncher"
I will and try and make this simple for you. I will synthesize everything I have said into bullit points!
You said you don't think hock should ever play again and yet you still pay to see him and support the boards decision to employ him. Therefore you are a hypocrit!
I don't have a problem with anything morely, monas or clarke has done (you can claim I'm biased; I don't care. It will be your opinion) therefore I have no reason to stop supporting the team or buying their tat. So... Not a hypocrite.
You have a problem with the above people. So when/if wigan sign them or they do a forum or something, if you continue to support them you'd be a... Yeah that's right, a hypocrite.
Cleared that up? Good!
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I will and try and make this simple for you. I will synthesize everything I have said into bullit points!
You said you don't think hock should ever play again and yet you still pay to see him and support the boards decision to employ him. Therefore you are a hypocrit!
I don't have a problem with anything morely, monas or clarke has done (you can claim I'm biased; I don't care. It will be your opinion) therefore I have no reason to stop supporting the team or buying their tat. So... Not a hypocrite.
You have a problem with the above people. So when/if wigan sign them or they do a forum or something, if you continue to support them you'd be a... Yeah that's right, a hypocrite.
Cleared that up? Good!
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Not really but hey ho, its just hard to get through to you that I can see faults in players and you obviously cant - if they play for Warrington.
BTW I do know what Clarke did, and it shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Hock or JM.
He is a decent bloke is Clarke, has been a great servant for Warrington and I always like to see him do well whenever the Wolves are on the box. I met him once at a kids do at Wigan, and he handled himself very well considering what he had just been through.
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| Neither taking recreational drugs or performing sexual acts on dogs have anything to do with what you do on the rugby pitch, yes, it should be dealt with by the club on a personal level but to say "ban them for life" is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="21-12"Neither taking recreational drugs or performing sexual acts on dogs have anything to do with what you do on the rugby pitch, yes, it should be dealt with by the club on a personal level but to say "ban them for life" is ridiculous.'"
What did Moz have to say about it?
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