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| Quote ="matt_wire"We're still light years away from them on their day, both Saints and Wigan still have so much intensity that we just don't seem to be able to muster when it actually counts. Tonight and last night's games showed that.'"
How do we know this, as I don't think that away to Leigh in the league, 10 wins out of 13...does actually count? Losing sucks but bit of an overreaction I think. Wigan and Saints have been losing games all over the show and that's why they are still behind us. It's a long season, chill ya boots son
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| Quote ="WazzaWire"How do we know this, as I don't think that away to Leigh in the league, 10 wins out of 13...does actually count? Losing sucks but bit of an overreaction I think. Wigan and Saints have been losing games all over the show and that's why they are still behind us. It's a long season, chill ya boots son
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I meant like when we played them, not tonight per se. They (Pies and Stains) both obviously turned it up a few notches when they played us, especially Saints, who's fans are unanimous that their performance against us was the very best of this year. Maybe I am overreacting, because we've turned it on twice in the South of France, but time will tell what happens when we play another game that truly 'counts', next one is the Wigan cup game I guess.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Not making him a scapegoat at all, but anyone with half an eye for the game can see that Dean is not good enough at this level and has never shown any sign that he is.
He's 21 now and I'll make a pretty safe prediction that he will never be a first team regular with us and will likely be released come season's end, where he will carve out a career in the championship.'"
Could be right, smells like Dec Patton, he as done well for Featherstone.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Could be right, smells like Dec Patton, he as done well for Featherstone.'"
I think Patton had far more chances than Dean and there's still a chance that there's a player in there.
A knock on early doors then not finding touch which they turned us around and scored from really rocked the lad.
BTW not too many can hold their head high tonight too many errors of every kind we never got on the front foot credit to Leigh who were well up for it. Williams was our best player and Philbin caught the eye in his first stint other than that not a lot to cheer about
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| Quote ="karetaker"Could be right, smells like Dec Patton, he as done well for Featherstone.'"
......yes, by playing badly for BRADFORD!
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"......yes, by playing badly for BRADFORD!'"
Riley Dean!
Well played tonight BTW
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I think Patton had far more chances than Dean and there's still a chance that there's a player in there.
A knock on early doors then not finding touch which they turned us around and scored from really rocked the lad.
BTW not too many can hold their head high tonight too many errors of every kind we never got on the front foot credit to Leigh who were well up for it. Williams was our best player and Philbin caught the eye in his first stint other than that not a lot to cheer about'"
You are right about the rest of the team but they won’t be dropped like he will. It’s why I said in an earlier post it would be unfair to make him the scapegoat, but as DSM says and it could be true is he will likely end up going and is why I referenced Dec Patton. It’s what this club as done for a long time Gaz 0’Brian another one but he as done better. Anyways we will see if he gets another chance or just cast aside.
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| Intensity, help me out am I missing something here. Asking because I have never seen it in us even when we have still won games.
Other teams play with more and ok may run out of steam hence we still manage to win. We can get off to s great start then just stop which allows the other teams a foothold back into the game.
I look at our performances and it looks like they just turning up for a training match, like I’ve said help me out here because it’s what I’m seeing and don’t know if I’m missing something.
Or is it Baldrick cunning plan that’s to cunning for even Blackadder and we are giving all the other teams a false sense of security and all will be revealed come the play offs
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| We do have intensity, take nothing from Leigh but I think we are a bit fatigued at the minute. Anyone can beat anyone in this league. Also Lam, Leutele, Asiata, O’Donnell, Hardaker, Charnley easily get into our side and they’re surrounded by some decent players too. We’ve no right to expect to turn Leigh over especially as our second row and centres are pretty poor and Mikaele offered a lot more than we realised.
I expected that result tonight, be interesting how we respond next week. One thing I’m worried about which has happened over the past 6/7 weeks is that we have weirdly just lost invention in attack when we showed plenty early doors…..there’s no reason that should just disappear.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Intensity, help me out am I missing something here. Asking because I have never seen it in us even when we have still won games.
Other teams play with more and ok may run out of steam hence we still manage to win. We can get off to s great start then just stop which allows the other teams a foothold back into the game.
I look at our performances and it looks like they just turning up for a training match, like I’ve said help me out here because it’s what I’m seeing and don’t know if I’m missing something.
Or is it Baldrick cunning plan that’s to cunning for even Blackadder and we are giving all the other teams a false sense of security and all will be revealed come the play offs
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I think you've hit the nail on the head we do have a cunning plan we are top of the league whilst avoiding the trap of peaking to early
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| Undercooked Wire.
Fatigued after the France win and celebrating.
We play Leigh next week, and that score is flipped.
Leigh scored from every lazy error we made.
Just bed that result as it’s not with studying over and look ahead refreshed after another week.
At least now we have a full week before our game, not just 2 training sessions.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Not making him a scapegoat at all, but anyone with half an eye for the game can see that Dean is not good enough at this level and has never shown any sign that he is.
He's 21 now and I'll make a pretty safe prediction that he will never be a first team regular with us and will likely be released come season's end, where he will carve out a career in the championship.'"
Disagree. He wasn’t giving the ideal canvas to display himself.
His team we’re fatigued and lethargic.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Undercooked Wire.
Fatigued after the France win and celebrating.
We play Leigh next week, and that score is flipped.
Leigh scored from every lazy error we made.
Just bed that result as it’s not with studying over and look ahead refreshed after another week.
At least now we have a full week before our game, not just 2 training sessions.'"
This is one of many posts on here blaming the trip to France for fatigue. Earlier in the season Leigh went to play Catalans on the Saturday, lost a bruising encounter by 14-6, then followed up the following Friday by winning 25-24 at Hull KR.one of the teams of the season.
So I think you could give Leigh a bit more credit especially seeing we matched the 18 point margin you beat us by at H.J.
Hope to meet you in the semi-final!
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"This is one of many posts on here blaming the trip to France for fatigue. Earlier in the season Leigh went to play Catalans on the Saturday, lost a bruising encounter by 14-6, then followed up the following Friday by winning 25-24 at Hull KR.one of the teams of the season.
So I think you could give Leigh a bit more credit especially seeing we matched the 18 point margin you beat us by at H.J.
Hope to meet you in the semi-final!'"
I didn’t dish Leigh.
I will add on for your satisfaction and my actual opinion.
Amazing effort all season. They’re the fun club that are lighting up the league. I hope they go on to play Wire at Wembley.
But my view, would Leigh have beaten Wire last weekend?…not a chance any current SL team would have. As for last night, the timing was right for Leigh, and a game wire really could have done with an 8/9 day turn around. Not 2 days of training sessions.
Wire will have an 8 day turn around, and I expect a far better showing against the current form team in the league Hull FC.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I think you've hit the nail on the head we do have a cunning plan we are top of the league whilst avoiding the trap of peaking to early'"
Sorry that one as got Sir Percy written all over it
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| Been saying for weeks we haven’t been playing wel and have been getting away with it but got told to shut up cause we’re top. Well it caught up with us and more tonight. We were absolutely horrible.
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| This team is not good enough for honours this season.
I include the coaching staff in that too.
Bookmark it.
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| My prediction based on last half dozen performances is this team will win nothing this season and the Powell out thread will be back in full flow.
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| Quote ="OnTheBeach"This team is not good enough for honours this season.
I include the coaching staff in that too.
Bookmark it.'"
The centres alone aren’t good enough and we all knew that before a ball was kicked in Feb. The worst in the league in fact. We have one genuine decent centre who Powell picked to sit in the stands last night as Peter Mata’utia appears to be undroppable despite his consistent woeful performances.
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| If we win a game in the playoffs this season that will be progress. Do I hope for more? Of course I do but I need to be realistic from where we have come from last season. The SL GF this year will be won, as it has in the last 17 years, by Wigan, Saints or Leeds. Not worth getting animated about.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Been saying for weeks we haven’t been playing wel and have been getting away with it but got told to shut up cause we’re top. Well it caught up with us and more tonight. We were absolutely horrible.'"
THIS. THANK YOU.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"We do have intensity, take nothing from Leigh but I think we are a bit fatigued at the minute. Anyone can beat anyone in this league. Also Lam, Leutele, Asiata, O’Donnell, Hardaker, Charnley easily get into our side and they’re surrounded by some decent players too. We’ve no right to expect to turn Leigh over especially as our second row and centres are pretty poor and Mikaele offered a lot more than we realised.
I expected that result tonight, be interesting how we respond next week. One thing I’m worried about which has happened over the past 6/7 weeks is that we have weirdly just lost invention in attack when we showed plenty early doors…..there’s no reason that should just disappear.'"
A good observation. Last 6 games we have scored 93 points. 15.5 pts per game. P6 W3 L3.
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| Was that the first time we'd lost against Leigh in the Super League era? When was the last time we list a competitive match against them?
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| No they battered us at their place not too long ago.
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"Was that the first time we'd lost against Leigh in the Super League era? When was the last time we list a competitive match against them?'"
We have never won a league game at the Leigh Sports Village.
Played two, and lost two.
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