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| 25 mins, 3 converted tries to draw level. We can do this #wegoagain #comeontheboys #whizzyrascal
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"So are you saying this is Powell's fault ?
This is 100% down to the players refusal to adapt to somthing new or just not being good enough to play that way and win.
For how long have we been a player short or the next signing will be the one, like vvd at Liverpool !! Our best players are as culpable for this garbage too some of them have been here for Smith price and now Powell with the same crappy attitude!
We don't have players who will do what's needed to improve to become winners if they've not done it over the last 2/3 years why expect it now. Majority are just happy to pick up their wages win or lose they're not really bothered. We can bring in any coach and will get the same performances over the season. 16 players out of contact, and I can only think of 2/3 who I would extend, not just based on this season but the last 3/4 seasons. Our squad needs a major refresh which I think we will see. I wonder if any have been told already to look for another club ?
What I think is needed is for the club to stand by powel love the players who've gained too much power in the dressing room and back him in replacing whoever !! This will completely change the culture at the club overnight almost players will come and know they have to perform and deliver to stay at the club we've become a soft touch in rewarding failure.'" agreed, I'd back Powell over the players.
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| Quote ="runningman29"Matthew Turner of the Warrington Guardian just tweeted the following.An horrific half in which the Wire fortunate to be only 20-6 down and the first 20 mins the worst he has seen in his six years covering the club.Seems like Powell being thrown under the bus.'"
Now chants from the away end of you are not fit to wear the shirt.
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Players can go but so can Powell. Burn it all to the ground and start new. Powell can't change a teams attitude and the team won't for him. Probably something to do with shipping out the likes of Hill and Mamo to make room for Holmes and Matautia who lets face it have been a huge step down from the two they've essentially replaced.
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| Quote ="gary numan"agreed, I'd back Powell over the players.'"
Thing is, if he keeps choosing the same players then he's to blame as much as them.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"I still cannot understand why on earth Powell gives Hughes the captaincy. It gave out the wrong signal for me, and the gauntlet seems to have found itself on a fishing boat off the cost of the Faroe Islands.'"
Think that one confused a lot of us before the season started, have we been vindicated in our thoughts.
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| Quote ="Philth"Thing is, if he keeps choosing the same players then he's to blame as much as them.'"
That's a fair point but to drop the headline players is a public statement something is amiss. Personally I'd be behind him if he did but I agree he should be shaking things up more.
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| Jeez, this is bad.
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| Quote ="gary numan"That's a fair point but to drop the headline players is a public statement something is amiss. Personally I'd be behind him if he did but I agree he should be shaking things up more.'"
Well maybe a public statement is needed, if he keeps picking these players he will be the one that loses his job. He will have to be bold and just do it.
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| The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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| Folk moaned about Price saying 'we trained well all week' or 'we've got a footy team there' every week, but I suspect Powell saying 'we're e' each weekend will start to grate even sooner.
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| Quote ="gary numan"That's a fair point but to drop the headline players is a public statement something is amiss. Personally I'd be behind him if he did but I agree he should be shaking things up more.'"
I back Powell tbh, feels like he needs to feel that support and make a bold move because this is dog and we're all looking at him.
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| They scored more points in the first 16 minutes than we will in 80!
I hope the players are shouting at each other and arguing because most are letting a few who are actually putting effort in down big time, I suspect however that they're quiet and not communicating as usual. We need some voices to emerge and some of the senior players to stand up and quickly.
Change captain now, drop the biggest name who isn't following new direction/ the ringleader of that faction. Powell needs to stamp his authority on this group and form a team. Its clear that too many are refusing to adapt and go with the coach.
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| Browny it won't grate as fast at all. I agree with Powell he's right in what he is saying but never once did I believe that price knew what sort of team he had!
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| Quote ="just_browny"Folk moaned about Price saying 'we trained well all week' or 'we've got a footy team there' every week, but I suspect Powell saying 'we're poop' each weekend will start to grate even sooner.'"
Well it will if he keeps picking the same side, we know it he definitely knows it so he as to change things or yes fans will start calling for his head.
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| The sheer amount of points we are shipping week in week out is deeply worrying. The games aren't even frickin close
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"icon_biggrin.gif
Players can go but so can Powell. Burn it all to the ground and start new. Powell can't change a teams attitude and the team won't for him. Probably something to do with shipping out the likes of Hill and Mamo to make room for Holmes and Matautia who lets face it have been a huge step down from the two they've essentially replaced.'"
I think that the reset does start next year, and that's why a 2 year contract with us wouldn't work for hill.
I'm not saying it as it's our year next year but with 16 players out of contract it does seem there's a longer term vision in the squad which I thinks a positive step forward, and if we get recruitment right then it could be a quick turn around to be competing at the top. Truman and Johnstone are out of contract next year too ...
It seems Asif most fans at the game can see that a lot of this is on the players and are letting them know.
I just think that irrespective of who the coach is we have to now back and support him over the players.
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| I’ll be honest. I’m too feckin sickened to even discuss it with you guys.
The team I love is rotten right through it.
Too not even give the respect to get to the ground in good time just about says it all.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I’ll be honest. I’m too feckin sickened to even discuss it with you guys.
The team I love is rotten right through it.
Too not even give the respect to get to the ground in good time just about says it all.'"
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| Recruitment is the problem. No player goes out and deliberately plays badly. They'll all be sore and battered after tonight's game.
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| Quote ="CW8"They scored more points in the first 16 minutes than we will in 80!
I hope the players are shouting at each other and arguing because most are letting a few who are actually putting effort in down big time, I suspect however that they're quiet and not communicating as usual. We need some voices to emerge and some of the senior players to stand up and quickly.
Change captain now, drop the biggest name who isn't following new direction/ the ringleader of that faction. Powell needs to stamp his authority on this group and form a team. Its clear that too many are refusing to adapt and go with the coach.
Oh and fitzpatrick out.'"
Who the biggest name then who’s no following new direction ?What will changing captain do ? Do you not think Powell has tried to stamp his authority down . Utter nonsense post
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| Whether it's the players, Karl Fitzpatrick, Powell or Wolfy's fault, it will be Powell who will lose his job should we be a candidate for relegation when we reach July.
He has to change the entire squads attitude and work ethic, especially in defence, as there's little he can do mid-season to change the personnel within it.
SM and the board cannot do much to bring in/move out players during the season, either, but they can change the coach. Whether that's fair, or not, the pressure is very much on DP at the moment.
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| He's had an off season to prepare these players. Either things have soured very quickly or there was resistance from the start and haven't already been stamped on, and neither of those options is a good look for anyone.
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| Quote ="Saintflyer13"Who the biggest name then who’s no following new direction ?What will changing captain do ? Do you not think Powell has tried to stamp his authority down . Utter nonsense post'"
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"He's had an off season to prepare these players. Either things have soured very quickly or there was resistance from the start and haven't already been stamped on, and neither of those options is a good look for anyone.'"
Absolutely, and the speed with which morale and attitude have nosedived suggests the latter, that they were not and are not onboard with the coaching staff.
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