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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Personally I would not want to see Ratchford shoe horned into centre.'"
Me either i think that would be an absolute waste of him, Halfback or fullback with king at centre all day long with Inglis, i would say put Sita at second row as it would slightly decrease his work load and may improve. But i think we played him there once and he looked clueless.
He did much improve his fitness early in the year and looked to have sorted himself out, so i hope that continues and now we have the young lads coming in to take his place he might kick in to overdrive to get back on the field.
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| Signing two props is a step in the right direction, how big this step is remains to be seen. I'm just worried that SP will use the newbies in small portions of 10 minutes a game, like he did with Akouala. This may happen to start with until they hold their own when replacing Hill or Cooper, but the template of how our bench props have been used may be a difficult habit for him to break.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Yeah i think Hughes attack is near non existant, he's had a few random games where he seems to realise he's a big lad and hits the accelerator and does really well. But those games are rare, put him at 13 and defensively in the middle we look a hell of alot more solid, and put someone else at second row......not J.Clark....i thought gelling would make an exciting second rower but ahh well not to be.'"
Luis Johnson would possibly have be a decent option, best in the squad is Toby king despite him also being a very good centre. Maybe longstaff gets a go or maybe we are looking to sign another second row! Doubt it though it will be j clark or hughes and we all know it. Still at least that should mean price will be out quite quickly with our toothless attack. Karl has after all acknowledged it's not good enough (again) let's see how long it takes him to do something about it.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Personally I would not want to see Ratchford shoe horned into centre.'"
Agree, full back or half back. He needs to play down the middle and get his hands on the ball. Wasted at centre.
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| Quote ="CW8"Agree, full back or half back. He needs to play down the middle and get his hands on the ball. Wasted at centre.'"
I worry that having Ratch and Austin in the halves is there 2 very similar type of players
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"I worry that having Ratch and Austin in the halves is there 2 very similar type of players'"
I felt the same about Austin and Widdop.
Too many chiefs not enough indians summed us up at times last year, unfortunately all the chiefs were waiting for each other to take charge.
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| Captaincy, the role to ensure everyone does their job on the field, rather than waiting for someone with a bottle of water to come on and do it for you. It's an important position, and one that has to be given to the right player.
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| I think Ratchford at 13 could work, not sure about him doing too much donkey work though.
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| Having 2 captains says everything about the indecision bred into the team from the coach downward - as someone else said we have too many chiefs.
All good teams should be greater than the sum of their parts but we are the opposite. We need leadership on and off the field.
Until we get the changes off the field we need we should make Cooper captain - he leads both by example and by direction.
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| Quote ="Barbedwire"Having 2 captains says everything about the indecision bred into the team from the coach downward - as someone else said we have too many chiefs.
All good teams should be greater than the sum of their parts but we are the opposite. We need leadership on and off the field.
Until we get the changes off the field we need we should make Cooper captain - he leads both by example and by direction.'"
Agreed, Cooper is the natural choice.
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| Quote ="Wrath"I think Ratchford at 13 could work, not sure about him doing too much donkey work though.'"
If we were desperate like last season then fine he won't let us down but ratchford shouldn't be used in the forwards IMO.
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| Ratchford played in the halves a few weeks ago ,i forget who it was against, but my own opinion despite years of thinking he should be a half back, was that it stifled his natural ability to make space for himself & probably create breaks .
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| The Ratchford conundrum would be solved by getting rid of him. Someone mentioned the word 'shoe-horned' before, no player should be shoe-horned in. If he's not the best available in any position then he starts on the bench. As it stands he should play stand off, if we sign Sezer or a good stand-off then he wouldn't make the starting 13 for me. I'd prefer Ashton at FB and he doesnt depose our first choice centres. Maybe there's a case for him to be 13, but his versatility has been detrimental to him and us on many occasions.
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| Keep hearing rumours of the club announcing a signing next week? Anybidy else hearing this? I would assume Widdop has been signed by an NRL club then and maybe we have a halfback on board? Could be utter rubbish and just rumour but i do keep hearing of the announcement.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Keep hearing rumours of the club announcing a signing next week? Anybidy else hearing this? I would assume Widdop has been signed by an NRL club then and maybe we have a halfback on board? Could be utter rubbish and just rumour but i do keep hearing of the announcement.'"
It will be another prop knowing us.
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| I’m liking the look of Mulhern, seems to have a bit of energy and is quite pacey over the first 5-10 metres
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| Quote ="CW8"It will be another prop knowing us.'"
Yep ... as a absolute priority we need to offload a prop or two.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Keep hearing rumours of the club announcing a signing next week? Anybidy else hearing this? I would assume Widdop has been signed by an NRL club then and maybe we have a halfback on board? Could be utter rubbish and just rumour but i do keep hearing of the announcement.'"
More likely they'll announce Widdop is leaving, but Wolfie has signed an extension until 2022.
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| [urlhttps://www.totalrl.com/inside-the-swap-deal-how-warrington-and-hull-kr-swapped-robbie-mulhern-and-luis-johnson/[/url
Quite an interesting article about the deal, looks like Karl & the club was specific on bringing in a young British signing.
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| Nice read that, little bit of insight from a managers perspective which you never really hear about. Also nice to see they've moved becaude they want to improve their games and Careers rather than just money
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| I would put an extra prop in the pack front row and put Daryl Clark in at 13, or if we are tied up with just 4 working props at best all season, then play Ratchford at 13 and Ashton at fb.
Best pack we had played 3 props up front, and we had contested scrums back then.
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| Are we having scrums this season?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I would put an extra prop in the pack front row and put Daryl Clark in at 13, or if we are tied up with just 4 working props at best all season, then play Ratchford at 13 and Ashton at fb.
Best pack we had played 3 props up front, and we had contested scrums back then.'"
Isn't this the same as playing the third prop at 13? Or are you thinking we would have an advantage by having the third prop lining up at hooker in the scrum?
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| No we want the third prop at dummy half and Darryl carrying the ball in to tackles to take the pressure off lineham and charnley.
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