Penny makes good metres after the collision. Compared to the 17 1/2st Lineham he is far superior.

Yup, making metres above his weight, arguably.

And my post didn't come close to saying anything like your post said I had.
Thanks for the kind block. Made my day.

I am just going off watching the games, I must confess I haven't looked at stats. The stats you mentioned suggests he is a better carrier than Russell, Manfredi etc but then tackle busts show he makes half what they do.

There's actually a thread on the VT where fans of other clubs are expressing their admiration for what Kev has achieved coming back after all his lows.

On this board we have this...

Maybe he will be the first player ever to have his own fans chant "wire reject" to him? To be fair to him he's played very well so far this season, a few mistakes last Friday aside (being picky, everyone makes mistakes and he recovers well from them). I don't really care where he is on any stats lists, for me he is in the team on merit this season. Plus with what he has already been through I would back him to improve further as the season goes on.

I can't think of a player that I've wanted to succeed in the P&B quite as much as Kevin. Most in his position a few years ago would have given up and looked for something else. I've nothing but admiration for his determination to rectify his shortcomings as a player. Looking forward to the day he gets his hands on a much deserved trophy.

He's rubbish. Don't know how he gets a game

Tremendous game tonight, one of few. Right, I'm off to the Lineham thread for a slightly different type of post.

Very good again!

Plays well in attack but his first kick off was mighty close to going out on the full. He second did. Utter disaster of a kick.
Ball on foot shaat, ball in awe-inspiring.

Penny had a kick off last week that won us a drop out after a Wigan score, so he isn't that bad. It was just one kick off that went out on the full, it happens to the best of them from time to time.

Saint won scrums from kick offs that they shouldn't ought to. Saints kicking a drop out purposely to get control of the scrum. Utter pathetic communication as both players looked at each other watching it dribble passed them as if they wanted it to go dead because they didn't know the rule.

Awesome from Penny tonight ..

..ive had a couple of pints and won't be commenting on Tom lineham until Sunday ...or if I'm still raging about a truly dreadful performance I'll leave it till Monday. ..

Honestly he's rubbish. .... Hull have never trousered one hundred thousand pounds so easily. .. doh...couldn't help myself. ...

Plenty of people are looking for reasons to bag him, but if a spued kick off is the only fault in a match that saw so many errors, he's done something right. I agree the kick off was poor, but he's probably 6/7th choice kicker at best, it's not a job he should be doing.

His take for the first try was top class, and the take when we were under pressure that led to the Currie try made the difference to take us in to half time in the lead.

Penny is playing out of his skin and every week someone bags him on here or Facebook.

Do you even watch the game those people?

They are probably on their phones facebooking and texting each other!!

He's been decent all season and last night apart from the kicking (not his main job) he was good enough again. At least he looks disappointed when he cocks up and tries to make amends

Nothing but praise for Penny two tries a few of his old elusive runs great in defence and taking the high balls.

Penny was class again. His performance was one of a true Wire.

From an outsider looking in, Penny has done a lot of work on his game and looks a very good player

The daft thing about this thread is that every single poster bar 2 or 3 out of about 40 is totally singing Kevin Penny's praises and even those 2 or 3
aren't saying anything harsh.

A class player who always puts in 110%. His finishing and ability to catch the ball at whatever angles is second to none. Plus, can someone let me know if there is a faster player playing in SL.

Nothing saying more about a player than putting in a good performance to counter a previous shaky performance.

Now then, can we have the same with Lineham? I won't hold my breath.

Lineham was excellent v Wigan and dissapointing last night but give him chance to settle in. Stop looking for scapegoats, we're a million miles better
than last year and still top of the league. A loss like last night is good long term. As a side we're aiming for the 8s and playoffs and to still be top with loads of scope for improvement bodes well.

As I say, let's have less scapegoating and be positive. We've got a great side in the making with some brilliant players. Hopefully it'll be our year.

I'm sorry Gaz and it's not just you we had it on the Tom Lineham thread but this constant use of the term scapegoat is starting to get on my goat. Opinion and criticism are necessarily scapegoating the standard definition is "a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency"

I missed the Wigan game, but, don't think that he is being criticised to cover the short comings of others, he's currently displaying plenty of his own...the drop out into touch last night was criminal sure Hughes was thereabouts but as the guy facing the play it was his ball.

Sorry I'm yet to be convinced despite keeping up his try a game stat.

OK, I'll replace scapegoat with 'person to single out for blame because we lost'. He didn't have his best game last night, but what I dislike is the manner in which attrition is readily dealt out to individual players on the back of a loss. When we won, there was minor criticism of Tom Lineham, granted, but as soon as we lose, everything goes to the extreme- That's what I have a problem with, not his form and not the opinions of posters.