8 penalties in the 2nd half; 4 whilst in possession. I can't spake.

serious issues bradford was very light and young up front

Can't begin to explain how gutted I feel right now

Losing to a team that hadn't even reached 0 competition points before the game. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

Yep, we're such a danger to ourselves in possession that it might be time to bring in Chelsea-style non-posession rugby.

We were making easy meters in the first half from what I could tell, but this is still worrying. We have nothing up front without Hill.

If I thought they'd be recriminations my spirits would be slightly higher, but there won't just denial, apathy, false praise, arrogance and pig-headed stubborness.

This isn't strong-minded belief in seeing the plan through, this is utter, naked delusion.

What a shocking afternoon. Instead of going boxing fitness training or other "outside the box" training we need to look at sorting out set plays. We have been clueless all season. No leader or General in the halls. We will struggle against Catalans on Friday that's for sure.

Don't forget that without their points deduction, Bradford would have been level on points with us. So they can only be as good, or bad, as us.

There is nothing to fill you with confidence either with what players are to come back from injury , yeah there is benny westwood but he can't do it on his own

Yeah, can longer back this team up anymore. Been doing it all season but this one was pretty bad. Can't even beat a dejected, bottom of the table team, woeful. At this point even if we are to kick on, it'll come too late.

Apart from the fact they can't tackle, pass, kick and lack discipline, I don't think we played too badly.

Forgive me while I find no solace in that

.

We are clueless in attack to the point where we are conceding penalties when we should be forcing them out of the opposition. We already know that Myler and Ratch aren't doing any better for our attacking "capabilities", so this is as "good" as we're going to get I feel. Bleak times.

Forget Wembley on this kind of performance.Meet 1 of the big sides + it could be very embarrassing.They'll be needing give Catalan tickets away for free at this rate.Can see lowest crowd of season Friday.

Hopefully Mr Moran has a good relationship with Koucash and he can ask him to do some searching for an half back whilst he's abroad.

Not sure where you learnt maths. Today was their third win; we've won five.

I wonder how long before we get the first 'Smith out" thread ?

Smith out!

tony smith needs to get his own house in order before going off and giving talks to football coaches , surely simon moran will have to act on this supporters will really start to vote with their feet , think i preferred it when we was and watching with hope rather than expectation

What, you mean the JCL's that turned up because we started winning trophies will bugger off because we're doing crap? Excellent stuff. At least we can go back to the dour days of 2002 but with proper fans and not the success sniffing hanger-ons that have infested the club in recent years.

This is a real "WTF" result....

To be fair there was a good feeling to a game at a packed and rocking HJ stadium

I wouldn't go as far as to say supporters should vote with their feet but the be all + end all is that nobody wants to see a losing team and in my opinion the management have a lot to answer for regarding the current situation + Catalans could make that even worse on Friday.

is it? We are pretty terrible at the mo!