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| Quote ="1905"Pretty much sums up the game. You were the better team. I never thought we looked like scoring, and to score we had to something special, which is a credit to FC's defence. I thought you deserved it, and I said so much to your fans leaving the stadium. However, I think you've peaked, as good as it was.
On reflection, [uI think tonight will be the highlight of your season.[/u You wont win anything, and a good away win will be the best you will muster this season. I will take the game at your place a couple of years ago to my grave.
Well done FC'"
That, right there, is where you get your reputation as fans.
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| Thought Hull done well tonight and exposed our fraudulent defence on almost every opportunity given. Watching our team defend at times this season has been like watching Cullen's team defend. Teams just waltzing through from close range, players left 1v1 on the try line and regularly getting beaten, it's poor to watch. At times our defending can be brutal, we shut up shop and a freight train at full speed wouldn't get through, but tonight, every time Hull got near our line they set up to score and succeeded at will.
With regards to our attack, Briers is just coming back and Hodgson being out didn't help, but I still felt like we moved things too slowly and didn't run particularly good lines. I like Grix, but we need a strike player like Bridge back in top form. Bridge was a walking try/assist when in form, we clearly aren't getting that with Grix. Atkins, IMO, is feeling the strains of being the only centre in the team at the moment. Considering he isn't a natural centre (IMO, he just doesn't create enough to be a natural there), his game is clearly suffering and he's been ineffective most times I've seen him (admittedly not as much as most, I work weekends).
We'll pick ourselves up and get on with our season, I'd rather face games like this now rather than in September, if the competition is getting stronger we have to prepare ourselves for that rather than get the shock at the end of the season. I have no doubts Tony has everything under control, but if he doesn't have his playmakers fit, I find it very hard to believe we'll beat the teams with pace.
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| We need Bridge back. Now.
And Atkins needs to shape up or ship out.
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| I think when these teams come to the HJ they always raise their game because its the biggest game of their season, its like going to the Nou Camp, every opposition player wants to perform that bit harder at the HJ, its their cup final.
In the playoffs if we go to Hull it will be easier because their players won't have the HJ factor to lift them.
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| Quote ="jj86"The 15 was tongue in cheek... Biggest decisions went your way. Fully agree the best side won though!'"
i thought i was sat on the fairway at the british open!!
All i could hear from warrington fans was ..4 WOOD....
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I think when these teams come to the HJ they always raise their game because its the biggest game of their season, its like going to the Nou Camp, every opposition player wants to perform that bit harder at the HJ, its their cup final.
In the playoffs if we go to Hull it will be easier because their players won't have the HJ factor to lift them.'"
Imagine how weird it must have been for the Hull players raising there game to play in a worse ground in front of a smaller crowd then what there used to.
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| Maybe we are just *doing a leeds* I guess time will tell . I know on our day we will beat anyone so hopefully it will all click at the right time
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| No complaints from me about loosing tonight. Least not forget hull would have beaten Wigan if it wasn't for dodgy penalty.
I thought Ellis had a quiet game, the young hull winger is what we need
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"No complaints from me about loosing tonight. =#BF0000Least not forget hull would have beaten Wigan if it wasn't for dodgy penalty.
I thought Ellis had a quiet game, the young hull winger is what we need'"
Did you go to the game?
Wigan won by eight points.
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| Quote ="1905" However, I think you've peaked, as good as it was.
On reflection, I think tonight will be the highlight of your season. You wont win anything, and a good away win will be the best you will muster this season.'"
Not seen much of us have you?
We made a stuttering start to the season, mostly through not being able to find or field a half-back combination that worked together. The Good Friday loss to HKR was our nadir, it caused the team to take a long, hard look at themselves and since then, there has been a steady improvement in both attitude and application, helped by players returning from injury.
I'm confident that last night's game will be far from our season peak and there'll be more upsets to come as the squad gel on the field.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I think when these teams come to the HJ they always raise their game because its the biggest game of their season, its like going to the Nou Camp, every opposition player wants to perform that bit harder at the HJ, its their cup final.
In the playoffs if we go to Hull it will be easier because their players won't have the HJ factor to lift them.'"
Blinkered springs to mind, saying that I would be more than happy for you to come to Hull in the playoffs it would mean our form of late as continued and we have pushed up the table. 1 loss in the last 7 matches is a step in the right direction for me, we get better every week.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Imagine how weird it must have been for the Hull players raising there game to play in a worse ground in front of a smaller crowd then what there used to.'"
Less pressure obviously. A step up from a game at craven park though
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| Hull fully deserved the victory. I thought they started brightly and finished in equal fashion.
What annoyed me (as a neutral) was the stop-start nature of the game. If it wasn't an error, it was a penalty. Don't think Silverwood helped matters and I could not work out when he was going to give a penalty and when he was going to let it go? I don't think he is a great ref tbh.
Something that I feel needs to be made more of is Ratchford's behaviour to the ref after Hull's try - to take the lead in the second half maybe? I thought running up to the ref like that was out of the order. If that was Wellens there would have been outrage at his behaviour. I'm glad Phil Clarke pointed it out, the others did not seem to care that the ref had to shout at a player like that to tell him to shut up.
And that 'no try' decision for Hull early on was a shocking decision! After that I thought the Wolves took control of the game so it was a turning point.
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| Was it 20-6 we lost the second half by? Hull kicked us to death. Tackled well and attacked fluently and at pace and thoroughly deserved to win.
My two-penneth
Overall Pace - We lack genuine pace in our backs, it was made stark in contrast when compared to Hull.
Atkins - Runs the ball in hard, but he is so much more than a battering ram, just wish he would show it. Poor hands and he fluffed that chance when we were 3 on 1 with the full back. A natural centre would have had little difficulty with the inside ball to Myler.
Chris Riley - can have a spell at another club for me. Terrible defensively - technique, decision making, and positioning, never beats a man on kick return, and never backs himself to score or take the outside. Good finisher from 3m out but we need more. Joel outshines him so much and shows what we are missing in a true quality left wing.
Ratchford - I'm a big fan of his. His elusiveness, guile and enthusiasm is good to see.
Waterhouse - Looked a real handful first half but a full 80 does seem to tire him.
Micky Higham - Probably his best season at the Wire.
Carvell - Awesome impact when he came on.
Paul Wood - I am afraid is rather indifferent at the moment. The offloading Woody of 2010-11 seems to have gone.
Mike Cooper - I just don't understand what Illawarra see in him. I will wish him well but cannot say I am concerned at the loss.
Ben Westwood - Just what has happened to the Super Ben of previous years? Aggression seems to be there but his impact is limited and daft high tackles are starting to be more common.
Glenn Riley - Ran the ball in hard and showed enthusiasm.
Ben Currie - Honeymoon is over, needs to start showing his attacking prowess as he did in the reserves.
Chris Bridge - Need him back desperately as a strike centre.
Briers - Good to see him back, rusty and played the last 25 minutes on 1 leg. Expect him to be out for a bit.
Season going as expected for me. 3-4th in the league but no SL final appearance and Wembley final if we can avoid Wigan at Catalan Away en-route.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Was it 20-6 we lost the second half by? Hull kicked us to death. Tackled well and attacked fluently and at pace and thoroughly deserved to win.
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Apparently Gentle's halftime instructions were to kick for field position and cut out the errors. That resulted in only one error in the last 40 and a completion of our last 17 sets
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I think when these teams come to the HJ they always raise their game because its the biggest game of their season, its like going to the Nou Camp, every opposition player wants to perform that bit harder at the HJ, its their cup final.
In the playoffs if we go to Hull it will be easier because their players won't have the HJ factor to lift them.'"
This is why nobody likes Warrington fans.
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| Best team won, no quarrels from me. Ref dreadful though.
Hull disallowed try for a push? Really, that was a push, it was two men competing for the loose ball.
Hull's allowed try, i think every time I've seen a runner take out a defender close to the man with the ball it's been disallowed, so what's different now (consistency please RFL)
Whiting try, jebus great pass from the Quarter Back for that one, touch judges stealing a living.
Dodgy try's aside Hull's tactics spot on.
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"That resulted in only one error in the last 40 and a completion of our last 17 sets"
If not dropping the ball for two tackles and kicking on the third is a 'completed set' then yes, i agree.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"This is why nobody likes Warrington fans.'"
Obviously you like a few others on this thread are unaware of Sally's tongue in cheek approach to this forum, read a few of Sally's other posts for a clue to the posting style.
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| Quote ="Albion"Hull fully deserved the victory. I thought they started brightly and finished in equal fashion.
What annoyed me (as a neutral) was the stop-start nature of the game. If it wasn't an error, it was a penalty. Don't think Silverwood helped matters and I could not work out when he was going to give a penalty and when he was going to let it go? I don't think he is a great ref tbh.
Something that I feel needs to be made more of is Ratchford's behaviour to the ref after Hull's try - to take the lead in the second half maybe? I thought running up to the ref like that was out of the order. If that was Wellens there would have been outrage at his behaviour. I'm glad Phil Clarke pointed it out, the others did not seem to care that the ref had to shout at a player like that to tell him to shut up.
And that 'no try' decision for Hull early on was a shocking decision! After that I thought the Wolves took control of the game so it was a turning point.'"
Couldn't put it better myself
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Best team won, no quarrels from me. Ref dreadful though.
Hull disallowed try for a push? Really, that was a push, it was two men competing for the loose ball.
Hull's allowed try, i think every time I've seen a runner take out a defender close to the man with the ball it's been disallowed, so what's different now (consistency please RFL)
Whiting try, jebus great pass from the Quarter Back for that one, touch judges stealing a living.
Dodgy try's aside Hull's tactics spot on.
Cod'ead wrote
"That resulted in only one error in the last 40 and a completion of our last 17 sets"
If not dropping the ball for two tackles and kicking on the third is a 'completed set' then yes, i agree.'"
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Best team won, no quarrels from me. Ref dreadful though.
Hull disallowed try for a push? Really, that was a push, it was two men competing for the loose ball.
Hull's allowed try, i think every time I've seen a runner take out a defender close to the man with the ball it's
been disallowed, so what's different now (consistency please RFL)
Whiting try, jebus great pass from the Quarter Back for that one, touch judges stealing a living.
Dodgy try's aside Hull's tactics spot on.
Cod'ead wrote
"That resulted in only one error in the last 40 and a completion of our last 17 sets"
If not dropping the ball for two tackles and kicking on the third is a 'completed set' then yes, i agree.'"
As stated earlier in this thread, if tries had not been s ored off the back of dubious decisions, there would be no debate.
The taking out of Waterhouse which lead to a Hull Try was awarded as Waterhouse was offside when the ball was played. Correct decision.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"As stated earlier in this thread, if tries had not been s ored off the back of dubious decisions, there would be no debate.
The taking out of Waterhouse which lead to a Hull Try was awarded as Waterhouse was offside when the ball was played. Correct decision.'"
Have you seen a better replay than the one the video ref showed then? Because they did not show the PTB, they showed when the dummy-half passed the ball. Where Trent was when the ball touched the foot of the man playing the ball is still a mystery to me as it wasn't shown.
No complaints other than that though. I thought Hull looked fitter, leaner, more athletic, and had a better kicking game than we did. Last twenty I thought we looked tired out (unfit).
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| Best team won simple as that their kicking game second half was excellent may be the reason we tired being constantly turned around?
Regarding fans with the likes of Billy the dot king kno.b Batten on your board are FC fans universally loved?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Best team won simple as that their kicking game second half was excellent may be the reason we tired being constantly turned around?
Regarding fans with the likes of Billy the dot king kno.b Batten on your board are FC fans universally loved?'"
We all have our 'over enthusiastic' fans I'm afraid.
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