I didnt realise your wife was there...lol

Fair point,

It wasnt all fax/fev fans it was a minority (as it always is,thank god),but as iv just put on another post if we get asked to stage the mickey mouse finals next year id tell them to shove it...

As for the drugs at games,at Wigan away this season the toilets were like pete doherty's tour bus,it was just a drug den.Im not condoning it atall but im used to this sort of thing,iv been going to football away games for years and im relatively new to RL since i moved from norfolk (1st season was 2nd to last at wilderspool).We do advertise RL as a family sport,seems it is slowly losing that tag...

I think the 'family sport' tag is just paper over the cracks. There is an element of rogue characters within the game, players and fans alike, but it's a society issue, not solely an RL issue. I've heard some pretty nasty stories from yesterday's game and most of it seems to stem from alcohol fuelled antics. Doesn't mean we're all animals that should be caged, but I do wish people wouldn't be so fickle about it. A lot of mud gets slung when incidents like this occur, "your fans are worserer than our fans" "our fans were provoced" etc. People act like knobs no matter where they're from or who they support, end of. I'd also like to see such behaviour discouraged at matches, people seem to turn a blind eye when it's 'their' fans, yet are often on t'interweb slagging others off for the same.

You do realise that Oldham fans were in that stand as well dont you? How do you know that it wasnt a disgruntled Oldham fan? ahhh you dont.

I'm waiting for Dropkick to come and post on this topic backing up the smokers.

After all, he did it when something similar was posted about people smoking in the toilets at Widnes. What was it now? Something about "oh, they have an addiction. A smoke isn't going to cause that much damage. Get over yourself".

On a side note maybe this incident is a catalyst that sees your apalling PA system upgraded, very little heard all night in the south stand, maybe it might have been a lot calmer and organised if the fans could hear things

I think he's banned.

For Warrington home games we have additional speakers placed at pitch level, now I'm not sure if they had those yesterday.

I do agree that the PA system that is built in should be upgraded with bigger, clearer speakers in the roofs, like the one's at Old Trafford.

They did have the seperate speakers yesterday, but the emergency announcements were made through the tannoy system so it wasnt that clear. The announcers both talked over each other which didnt help matters.

Yeah they use the ground tannoy for emergency announcements as I think that can be heard across all aspects of the ground in the concourses & office areas, not just the pitchside where the large speakers are...

This was a nice sentiment from a Leeds fan

Sure the final was 4 weeks ago

Surely they aint still bitter haha

Apparently they were selling two pint pots all day, which aggrevated the situation no end. Thought they'd stop those a few years ago?

pathetic excuse for your fans getting lairy when fax were evacuated! anyway....have you seen the ones at cas??

Look we all know that the fev and fax fans turned up from about an hour before their kick off. Everyone was in town boozing away on the beer which is slighty cheaper than in the ground.

You can ban booze or keep booze it will still mean people arrive oiled up. The question as always is why these people are allowed in when they are smashed. The same thing happened at Wembley and will happen on saturday.

I love a drink but I know when to stop or slow down.

As for the oldham comment they had went home long a go. 4 on the trot you dont want to hang around.

Fev and Fax were a disgrace to RL.

Arson in the west stand
Groups of guys sprinting down the gangways to get on the pitch from the south stand. Anyone could see fax fans that they hadnt come on to cause trouble expect for a few knobs.

Police called into the East stand.

The situation was that stressful that the police had to have dogs on the pitch at the end.

one possible solution is have "the bigger" game first and the conference game last where there would be less fans and the teams with more fans would have less time to get canned

Just like all your lot at Wembley then eh? No i thought not, bit of genralisating there isnt it?

You mean the Leeds fan fighting the Wigan fan ?

All i could see was fighting in the Wire end. So it must have been all the Wire fans musnt it? No of course not. Just like it wasnt all Fax fans or Fev fans that were being idiots yesterday.

there were more than the average one or two scuffles yesterday i witnessed a fair few myself it always the case when guys have had 6/7 hours on the lash comes with the territory unfortunately

Not disputing that at all. There were idiots from both sets of fans. But it isnt fair to generaise that it was all the Fax and Fev fans that were being a "disgrace"

your extremely defensive arent you... it seems to me that you feel ashamed... so dont come on here popping that rubbish! we all know that fev and fax fans were involved yesterday. end of! and someone set alight to part of a stadium... defend that! go on! try it!

You are not quite grasping the point of my posts are you? If i could type them slower so you could understand i would. But i think i would be fighting a losing battle.

what havent i grasped from your benign posts? all youve been doing is deferring any of the blame from your fans????

No i havent - Some of the fans acted like idiots both Fax and Fev - However, it wasnt ALL Fax and Fev fans. And the original post i quoted made a generalisation that all the Fax fans and Fev fans were a "disgrace", which they werent.