Mozzas just bin on GMR saying he needs sacking and is a w*nker.

Think it could be time to get Bill arthur, Carney, Barry and Terry doing the commentary now it is getting rather pathetic.

All of them are pretty bad to be honest.
Phil Clarke, cringeworthy at times, far too obvious, the only thing really that he does good there is knowing pedantic little things about rules and spouts off a sh*t load of stats, wereas Eddie can't even do that, stevo needs to drop the stupid little catchphrases. They should have Carney on more.

When he is on the Lords turf tonight, ready for his pre game rubbish we should create as much noise as possible to drown him out. To let Sky know our thoughts.

A few renditions of 'famous wigan rugby' should prove quite topical too!

yep. perhaps he might try call out more fans from the crowd again? very proffessional. complete and utter tool!

"We all hate Phil Clarke, we all hate Phil Clarke....." should be the song when he is doing his prematch "well if Wigan were in this position......." on the pitch. Please don't think for one moment that I think he is unfair to any team!

I don't ha

Iv just been reading through the responses to his arcticle on the sky sports website, and am gobsmacked at actually how blinkered some wigan fans are. I havnt seen a lot of the offences commited against Leeds, but by the sounds of it (and i know their own fans are biased) Leeds have had their fair share of cheating done against them. How Phil Clarke, someone who is meant to be impartial, can put a comment like that online and get away with it is disgusting.

i genuinely hope that he gets some stick tonight at the HJ. Toss pot. Id even consider singing "Theres only one danny mcguire" just to stick it to him.

really? that's just a bit sad.
whatever phil clarke did say or do (and i do think he's extremely biased towards wigan) the fact is that danny mcguire cheated last week at probabaly the most important point in the match.
A cheat or a feller who just can't hide his support for a team. i know who i hate more.

So you must really hate Sam Tomkins then? or did you brush his 2 clear incident of cheating under the carpet?

I hate cheats more, dont get me wrong. But, in that situation, what would you have done???? If you can hand on heart say let him carry on running, PM me your name and i'll forward your details to become the next pope. And for a "professional" like Clarke to mention Rugby Gods getting their revenge is just pathetic.

Turning it on its head, it could be the "Rugby Gods" making Mcguire do that to punish you for your cheating (salary cap) a few years back.

Clarkes a toss pot, and needs to become a bit more neutral.

Clarke didn't mention Tomkins' cheating antics I see. Not suprised.

Sam Tompkins cheated too. Do you hate him aswell ?

Cheating only counts in the last minute though

Fair point, yes 'rugby gods' is laughable. To be honest i think our lack of success in the last few years had made up for that one


No no i see your point, and i'm not caying i hate mcguire for that and i don't hate phil clarke either, i just know which one at the moment i dislike more as one of thoe incidents directly affected a game of rugby wereas whatever phil clarke says, on the pitch, it makes no difference if you catch my drift.
Also to the peopel talking about Sam Tomkins, no i didn't sweep that under the carpet, i hate it when he does that, i won't bother going in to it because it would probabaly be taken the wrong way anyway but the reality is mcguires 'cheating' cost wigan the game, tomkins 'cheating' made next to no difference.

I genuinley laughed out loud at that last post.

Good to hear Eddie Hemmings pull the pillock up last night over McGuire and Joel Tomkins.

Good, as i generally laugh at most of your posts

If you think about it, tomkins cheating was worse than mcguires... Mcguire only cheated because he absolutely had to.. You say tomkins cheating had no effect on the game... Well if that's the case he is cheating for fun. Which is a far worse crime.... Do you not agree?

When you put it that way, yes.
As a wigan fan i obviously look at it in a different way.
Also, 'absolutely had to' not really, he could have waited for carmont to catch the ball then tackled him etc.
i'm not even saying any other player wouldn't do it or who's cheating was worse, i was saying people getting annoyed at phil clarke even though whatever ever he says has no affect on what happens on the pitch and thats all i'm concerned about. Fact is Tomkins should be repremaded for his 'tactics' and i didn't see him doing it last night so hopefully he's figured out it's only going to make players target him more and one day he won't be so lucky.

"cheating,gamesmanship,professional foul" etc etc call it what you will - it's always gone on and always will,end of. I think it was Dame Eddie H who says "he (Sam T),has an old head on young shoulders"
regarding Phil Clarke (Mr Wigan),I don't have a problem with him or Dame Eddie or Stevo or the rest,i'm just glad that Sky Sports are prepared to keep on investing in a 'minority' sport with moderate viewing figures etc - just imagine what would have happened to RL if Sky hadn't been around ! I wish you lot would STOP MOANING and just get on with enjoying the game...
As a Saints fan,I would love to see young Sam turn out for us,cheat or not...

You are right in that there have always been and will always be players that push their luck/ stretch the rules for the benefit of the team - not the benefit of the game. Every team has them - they are heroes for your team and villains for everyone else.

What McGuire did was instinctive in the heat of the game. It didn't 'cost' Wigan the game - we will never know if Carmont would have gone on to score the try. The Tomkins Two do it every week, whether its Sam with his arm trap (think about it, he dislocated his finger last night and played a portion of the game with just one arm, hence he didn't do it as much) and Joel with his kicking out, rubbing his head in etc. Which is worse - probably the Terrible Two because they purposely do it every week as part of their game. We can agree to disagree on that, as if they played for us I would probably defend them too.

The point that people are trying to make is that no one deserves an injury, no one who is injured deserves to be told he deserves it. By all means he can discuss the tackle/ foul whatever you call it, but to publicly call the player a cheat a week later is bringing the game into disrepute. Phil Clarke is paid to present the sport of rugby league not Wigan RLFC and his rantings have become an embarrassment. Wigan don't play the game on their own and both sides deserve evened reasoning and unbiased commentary.

quite right Millie,couldn't agree more - both sides deserve equal praise/criticism - maybe Phil Clarkes' contribution should be done by big Barrie Mac who gives the Rhinos as much stick as the opposition ?

I love Barrie McDermott!!

His rising stars bit on superman is so cringeworthy it is funny.