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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Hardly as they are not extra games, its because there are 16 teams in the league and they dont want 30 regular games. Nobody has to play anyone 3 times in extra games, so how is that unfair? Typical lack of NRL knowledge.
Suggesting Superleage teams should play an extra game and have derbies is completely unfair, like is said why should Wigan have to play Saints an extra time??? Basically you want all your rivals to play each other and they Wire play a shocker of a team in Salford. If they have the Magic weekend, the only way they should do the fixtures is by a draw like they have done this year.
I'll admit im jelous that you got to play Salford, anyone would have beaten them today, good win though.'"
The point on the NRL is that some teams will play the bottom club twice whilst some will play the top team twice, so the fixtures are not the same for each club. Lack of NRL knowledge; really? Perhaps if I called by self "Wllabong_Wolf" I'd become an expert - rather than watching and following the competition closely for 25 years.
If it keeps you happy I'd quite happily have Warrington play Saints and Wigan can play Crusaders. At the end of the day the concept of the "Madness" qweekend is to try and generate exposure and revenue for the game as a whole and this would stand the best chance of succeeding, in my view, is to put on "fans' favourite" matches to pull a bigger crowd and give matches with a bit of extra spice.
It comes as no great suprise to find a Wigan fan with an insular viewpoint rather than looking at a bigger picture for the game overall.
Either way I found yesterday very enjoyable from the first to last and hoping for a repeat, including a Huddersfield win, today.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"The point on the NRL is that some teams will play the bottom club twice whilst some will play the top team twice, so the fixtures are not the same for each club. Lack of NRL knowledge; really? Perhaps if I called by self "Wllabong_Wolf" I'd become an expert - rather than watching and following the competition closely for 25 years.
If it keeps you happy I'd quite happily have Warrington play Saints and Wigan can play Crusaders. At the end of the day the concept of the "Madness" qweekend is to try and generate exposure and revenue for the game as a whole and this would stand the best chance of succeeding, in my view, is to put on "fans' favourite" matches to pull a bigger crowd and give matches with a bit of extra spice.
It comes as no great suprise to find a Wigan fan with an insular viewpoint rather than looking at a bigger picture for the game overall.
Either way I found yesterday very enjoyable from the first to last and hoping for a repeat, including a Huddersfield win, today.'"
I totaly agree it needs those games to make the magic weekend attractive, but i just dont think that its fair. Ok i get what you mean about the NRL, but the system is there because there are 16 teams and to play each other twice would mean 30 games!!!! I know it can be seen as unfair playing some sides twice and others only once. But the point is that not much can be done about it. Whereas the magic weekend, is an extra game and alot can be done to ensure its fair, ie. draw the fixtures. But as we have seen there hasnt been many attractive fixtures and its a hard sell.
I still think they should scrap it imo, but i did enjoy being an armchair fan yesterday, watching 6 live rugby league games, already off to a good start today aswell with the Roosters beating the tigers
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| The "Magic" weekend should just be moved to the start of the season, in a stadium with a roof in England somewhere.
I love the Magic Weekend, Murrayfield is a nice stadium and Edinbourgh is an awesome place, but it does cost a lot of money to get there, and 26,000 people from atleast 8 different teams? C'mon that's shocking. Not to mention the prices. £4 a pint is dire, if we have it closer to the "Heart" of rugby (Cheshire/Yorkshire) beer will be cheaper too, as well as travel.
Peacocks idea about having it to start the season with a Bang is a good idea, but... It will be COLD. Yesterday I was walking around the ground, popping in on the games for score updates, having general banter with other fans whilst drinking a beer without any discomfort what so ever, whereas if it was in Jan/Febuary... It would be sloppy if not frozen grass, absolutely freezing, people wouldn't be dressed up in Morphsuits or as Umpa Lumpas because it'll be way too cold and when we get into the ground, sitting down would just make things even colder, as you'll be in the shade and we all know from the HJ that on a cold match day, most people in the South squash together and things are a little warmer ('Til half time when everyone goes the bar)
So yeah - The idea of all teams playing on a weekend is an awesome idea that should stay, and at the start of the season would be good too, but it also has its negatives, like the weather. And now im off to remove this headache of mine after a heavy days drinking.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Saturday attendance was 26,642. A bit more than I thought but down by 10% on 2009 (29,627).'"
Sunday's attendance was 25,401. Total for Magic Weekend 2010 is 52,043 down 18% on last year's 63,144.
Last weekend's normal SL round attracted 67,818.
Can only be considered a failure. I suggest we play it at Old Trafford or Eastlands next year (if we must persist with it).
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| Definately agree Cardiff much better venue go back there, but Edinburgh again never,
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| to be honest its more what you make of it as a weekend (presuming your not on a day trip), Cardiff is better location wise but Edinburgh is a quality city.
Anyone wanting it played at a premier league venue is dreaming, sorry.
And £4 a pint is taking the pIss.
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| No crowds, no atmosphere, no easy way to get there and appearantly no pubs to have a meal with the family .............. hmmmmm...next year..........NO WAY!
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| Where is there a stadium in England with a roof? Balls to it lets use the MEN Arena
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| [ilets just say the rfl decided to keep the magic weekend .. even though after peoples thoughts from this year i dont know whether they will[/i
where would you have it ?
newcastle, london, manchester, dublin, cardiff again ?
and would you have the derbys or just pick out of a draw random game?
your thoughts please.
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| MANCHESTER
[iThe City Of Manchester Stadium
In my opinion the games should be as follows:
Wigan v Saints
Leeds v Bradford
Catalans v Crusaders
Castleford v Wakefield
Hull FC v Hull KR
Harlequins v Huddersfield
Salford v Warrington
BUT one thing I would change is just to make the weekend part of the normal fixtures and not create an extra game during the season.
But of course the clubs won't like that but I bet the players and coaches would.
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| St James Park at Newcastle would be a great venue.
A great stadium which would not look stupidly empty because it only holds 51k, plus the town of Newcastle is a great place to visit.
Manchester would not be good the City of Manchester stadium is about five miles out so getting 20,000 people from the centre of Manchester to the ground would be a problem.
London, no way keep that for the Challenge cup.
Dublin, would be a great venue but getting there would be a real pain.
Birmingham at Villa Park same problem as Manchester.
Cardiff, a lot of people like Cardiff but it doesn't do it for me.
So a trip to Newcastle would be my choice, it would have to be done on the Bank Holiday at the end of May so it would clash with the football.
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| personally id agree and go with newcastle, because its smaller and its not as far away as edinburgh and the whole reason for doing the 'magicweekend' is to expand rugby league and you can do that in newcastle i.e gateshead thunder.
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| IMO the games this year have been a disappointment...too many games have been one sided.
I also don't think the derbies should be taken on the road...they are best left where they really matter...at the home grounds....so how do you ensure a good tight game for proper entertainment?
The best way of achieving this is to match up teams with similar league positions..as this is usually the best indicator on how good a team is!
You can't leave it until the last minute to decide the fixture list...so why not decide the fixtures for the weekend based on the finishing league positions of the previous season?...its not an exact science but it is surely the best way of getting the most teams into a competitive match. You can't really account for how a team might improve over the course of the off season....and the start of a new season...but it should still generate some good close games.
It could then be marketed as the four pointer weekend or something like that!
So base on last years (2009) finishing positions the fixture this year would have been....
(1st) Leeds v (2nd) Saints..GOOD GAME
(3rd)Huddersfield v (4th) Hull KR...GOOD GAME
(5th)Wigan v (6th)Wakefield..mmmm not sure
(7th)Castleford v (8th)Catalan..not a bad game
(9th)Bradford v (10th)Warrington..GOOD GAME
(11th)Harlequins v (12th)Hull..GOOD GAME
(13th)Salford v (14th)Crusaders..not sure
As for the location...everyone seems to like Cardiff! (apart from FATBELLY! )
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| I can't see any football club in the country allowing their pitch to be used for seven rugby league matches in two days during the last few weeks of their season, so unless the RFL change the weekend then I can't see St James Park, Villa Park, Anfield or any other football stadia that I have heard mentioned being used. Dublin would suit me as I have family over there, but I think the costs and travel involved would put too many off. This would leave major rugby stadia in mainland UK, which as far as I am aware means Murrayfield, Cardiff or Twickenham. Murrayfield, IMO, hasn't worked as well as Cardiff (which was excellent) and I too think that London should be kept for the Challenge Cup Final. So it's Cardiff for me.
As regards the fixtures, then I still think SL should remain as 26 games (13 home and away) and use the 'Magic Weekend' to revitalise the Challenge Cup. Championship and amateur teams play until there are two remaining at which point the 14 SL clubs come into the draw. 16 teams, eight games, all played in Cardiff over a weekend, winner goes through, loser goes out of the cup. I appreciate that the 'lesser' clubs would have less chance of pitting themselves against SL opposition, but for the two clubs that make the 16 the reward is fantastic. Obvious issue is the Challenge Cup is BBC rather than Sky, but I'm sure the three concerned (RFL, BBC and Sky) could work something out.
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| I think Elland Road would be a good shout.
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| newcastle would be a great shout along with dublin but it will be a nightmare getting over there ,
matches
- saturday
- salford v crusaders
- harlequins v catalans
- wakefield v castleford
- leeds v saints
sunday
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- hull fc v hull kr
- wire v wigan
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| Newcastle or going back to Cardiff sounds good but definately not Edinburgh or Dublin (too expensive)
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| Newcastle sounds good
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"St James Park at Newcastle would be a great venue.
A great stadium which would not look stupidly empty because it only holds 51k, plus the town of Newcastle is a great place to visit.
Manchester would not be good the City of Manchester stadium is about five miles out so getting 20,000 people from the centre of Manchester to the ground would be a problem.
London, no way keep that for the Challenge cup.
Dublin, would be a great venue but getting there would be a real pain.
Birmingham at Villa Park same problem as Manchester.
Cardiff, a lot of people like Cardiff but it doesn't do it for me.
So a trip to Newcastle would be my choice, it would have to be done on the Bank Holiday at the end of May so it would clash with the football.'"
They manage to do that every week. Most come form the city centre.
I like the idea but it is a pain in the to get to Edinburgh. What about twikenham? Much more accessible than Edinburgh for most with direct trains getting you into London in two hours for most of the clubs and a different non-football stadium. Fair enough it may be big but choose decent games and they you will get a good turnout.
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| ban it ,its a pile ov end of
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| Newcastle wins it for me
Good transport links (the A1 is near enough 3 lanes the whole way)
No problem finding accomodation, even if you cant get in the centre of Newcastle there are many surrounding towns, Whitley bay etc etc
Excellent nightlife
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| loads of drunk 'southerners' rolling round the town singing 'fog on the tyne'. Just what the area needs.. count me in!
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| I would like a place that holds around 45-50k and is only around 2-3 hours max drive as the coach ride Is a killer. Newcastle sounds good let's get ant n dec advertise it
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"St James Park at Newcastle would be a great venue.
A great stadium which would not look stupidly empty because it only holds 51k, plus the town of Newcastle is a great place to visit.
Manchester would not be good the City of Manchester stadium is about five miles out so getting 20,000 people from the centre of Manchester to the ground would be a problem.
London, no way keep that for the Challenge cup.
Dublin, would be a great venue but getting there would be a real pain.
Birmingham at Villa Park same problem as Manchester.
Cardiff, a lot of people like Cardiff but it doesn't do it for me.
So a trip to Newcastle would be my choice, it would have to be done on the Bank Holiday at the end of May so it would clash with the football.'"
Eastlands is not 5 miles from the City Centre . It is a 30 min walk from Piccadilly Station or 5 min Taxi ride . Quite a few buses go that way aswell .
Newcastle would be a great place to have it or perhaps White Hart Lane or Villa Park .
Another thing is if we move it to the end of May it clashes with the Football League Play Off Finals . Lets say Leeds/Bradford/ Huddersfield or Hull City reach the final it may affect the attendance
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| Newcastle for me. Great Stadium and a great city. Ive been to every Magic Weekend and enjoyed it, but I feel it needs to be played in a smaller stadium with more competitive games. I would definitely bring the derby fixtures back.
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