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| Quote ="mark_m"Rob, you are always right of course. And you had the cheek once to call me pompous; I looked up the word in a dictionary and there is a picture of you in all your glory.'"
This is the standard reply you get on here when one of the Cullen worshippers who has got it wrong in the past and isn`t big enough to admit to it so they try and put a spin on things with some attempted humour to side track the issue, predictable but a fair effort all the same.
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| Say what you want about Cullen but bar the second half on sunday we are no where near as good or as enjoyable to watch. And that when all is said and done is why i watch the sport and pay my money.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"This should be interesting, bounce up the threads where you claim i slate John Clarke every week or is it just your usual made up rubbish.
It will be the latter, more made up garbage thats spouted on this board on a weekly basis by the usual culprits.'"
Just for clarity, you're saying that you don't criticise Clarke, on here, frequently ?
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"This is the standard reply you get on here when one of the Cullen worshippers who has got it wrong in the past and isn`t big enough to admit to it so they try and put a spin on things with some attempted humour to side track the issue, predictable but a fair effort all the same.'"
I have never worshipped Cullen. You make him sound like some sort of Aztec idol.
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Quote ="mark_m"I have never worshipped Cullen. You make him sound like some sort of Aztec idol.'"
Mark, to be fair, Rob never criticises Clarke so he's right to take the moral highground.
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Quote ="mark_m"I have never worshipped Cullen. You make him sound like some sort of Aztec idol.'"
Mark, to be fair, Rob never criticises Clarke so he's right to take the moral highground.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"This should be interesting, bounce up the threads where you claim i slate John Clarke every week or is it just your usual made up rubbish.
It will be the latter, more made up garbage thats spouted on this board on a weekly basis by the usual culprits.'"
JWP's got you here mate. I know JWP has posted the link but just in case you miss this Rob, this is what you said:-
Quote I have never been a fan of Jon Clarke and ive made that clear in the past'"
Quote His pause and then pass either left or right doesn`t really fool many people and by the looks of things it hasn`t fooled Tony Smith '"
Quote Clarke isn`t that sort of player, he is a grafter and little more else. '"
So not only have you slagged him off in that post but you also make it clear that you have in the past. Nothing up with that, might be better to be consistent.
As for the Paul Cullen thing - I'm sorry Rob, we ran out of medals last week; 71 got the last one. I've already admitted I was wrong about Cullen - have you admitted that you changed your tune about King and Fa'afili as yet?
And as for the 10,000 words bit. Don't take it all so seriously. I assume he is referring to thread titles like this:-
[iThings I thought about today's game having just watched it on telly[/i
Only a bit of fun. Unlike your long posts.*
*again, a joke.
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| Quote ="Foz"Say what you want about Cullen but bar the second half on sunday we are no where near as good or as enjoyable to watch. And that when all is said and done is why i watch the sport and pay my money.'"
I wasn't a Cullen fan at all but we did have the most entertaining brand of Rugby under him. Our Defensive frailties and Freedom to attack and offload at every opportunity made nearly every game extremely exciting to watch.
Smith is twice the coach that Cullen was but at the same time not one of the games he has coached us in has got me excited in the same games under Cullen did. Smith is obviously laying the defensive foundations before he lets us open up attacking wise whereas Cullen’s philosophy was attack, attack, attack.
But hey if we win something under Smith you won’t hear me complain once……..
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| i've a sneaky feeling that rob is mickey higham,i don't know why though.
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| I was loyal to Cullen, that's how I see it.
Anyway, back to the point of this thread. Cullenisms. They liven up what would otherwise be a fairly dry topic. We could have someone saying "Cunningham passes it to Graham who passes it to Pryce who passes it to Wellens who scores a try. There were four passes in that move and the defenders did not make effective tackles, so Wellens scored." (Actually, for some people who criticise Cullen 'effective' is probably too difficult a word). However, we have Cull talking about feet on the net, pendulums (pendula?) etc. I heard Geoffrey Boycott this morning talking about the ball "kissing the surface" and he often talks about the "corridor of uncertainty". Marvellous stuff, but hey if you can boo and slag off someone who tried their best for actually speaking in an articulate way about our sport, then be happy.
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You stated and i qoute
Quote ="JWP"He reminds me a bit of you Rob. Why use one word, when you can use ten thousand, every week to tell us that Clarke is crap.'"
Its strange isn`t it that you make a claim that someone slates Jon Clarke on a weekly basis yet you have to go back to 2008 for the majority of those posts above, i wouldn`t mind i aint even on here every week
Check out how many threads have been started by me about Jon Clarke out of the ones you have quoted above or any others in the last few years, you were really scraping the barrel with the majority of them anyway and you know it.
Very sad but i`m glad that you have wasted a load of time searching through threads going back to 2008 to back up your fantasy claims.
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Quote ="JWP"He reminds me a bit of you Rob. Why use one word, when you can use ten thousand, every week to tell us that Clarke is crap.'"
Its strange isn`t it that you make a claim that someone slates Jon Clarke on a weekly basis yet you have to go back to 2008 for the majority of those posts above, i wouldn`t mind i aint even on here every week
Check out how many threads have been started by me about Jon Clarke out of the ones you have quoted above or any others in the last few years, you were really scraping the barrel with the majority of them anyway and you know it.
Very sad but i`m glad that you have wasted a load of time searching through threads going back to 2008 to back up your fantasy claims.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire" i wouldn`t mind i aint even on here every week
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"You stated and i qoute
Its strange isn`t it that you make a claim that someone slates Jon Clarke on a weekly basis yet you have to go back to 2008 for the majority of those posts above, i wouldn`t mind i aint even on here every week
Check out how many threads have been started by me about Jon Clarke out of the ones you have quoted above or any others in the last few years, you were really scraping the barrel with the majority of them anyway and you know it.
Very sad but i`m glad that you have wasted a load of time searching through threads going back to 2008 to back up your fantasy claims.'"
Nah, dead easy.
I just started at your first post (page 49 of Rob_Wire posts) and worked backwards in time. By Page 36, I'd found them, case closed.
I'll see how I'm fixed on Monday in here, maybe do pages 1-20.
There'll be heaps, heaps more, all saying the same thing. (....as you do)
You're right though, I'm defo the one looking a fool here, defo.
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I often find that Warrington fans are #1 when it comes to falling out with one another. It's depressing at times.
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| To be fair to the Clique I hardly think Rob is "slating" Clarke ...
sorry JWP but i only read the first two of the listed threads and Rob does give a reason behind his Critiques
He could simply say in a LWF style that Jon Clarke is proper $hit..... and leave it at that.... and have your full admiration
I by the way dont have the same opinion as Rob on Jon Clarke
nor am i fighting his corner....
but maybe have a look at your own posts (no i'm not searching for them) having clique style pops at Rob....Like MD does in his constant jibes at Robs attendance of games.....before you state you do not look like fools....
for someone voted funniest poster I dont understand how you can have a pop at a bloke discussing Rugby on Rugby discussion forum....
anyway I'm missing Saints wigan Maybe we can all discuss it later while you chip in with Some gags......
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| Si, don`t bother, you know how internet forums work.
Its plain for anyone person to see that he couldn`t and can`t back up his claims that i slate Jon Clarke on a weekly basis, i asked him to post the numerous Jon Clarke threads that i`m supposed to have started on a weekly basis yet he can`t even do that, those threads he highlighted are in no way slating Jon Clarke, those opinions he highlighted ar in the context of a differnet thread and he knows that rather than them being a Jon Clarke slating session, he is clutching at straws to back his origninal claim up and he won`t do it because i don`t slate Clarke on a weekly basis..... The clique can be quite entertaining in their own little sad way
Ive actually praised Clarke quite a bit, not as a hooker but i think he could offer us something a lot different at loose forward than what the inconsistent Vinnie Anderson brings to the table, Jon Clarke has a fair kicking game from ball in hand and he is a much better player when he is running on the fringes in open space as per his performes at loose forward in the past.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"To be fair to the Clique I hardly think Rob is "slating" Clarke ...
sorry JWP but i only read the first two of the listed threads and Rob does give a reason behind his Critiques
He could simply say in a LWF style that Jon Clarke is proper $hit..... and leave it at that.... and have your full admiration
I by the way dont have the same opinion as Rob on Jon Clarke
nor am i fighting his corner....
but maybe have a look at your own posts (no i'm not searching for them) having clique style pops at Rob....Like MD does in his constant jibes at Robs attendance of games.....before you state you do not look like fools....
for someone voted funniest poster I dont understand how you can have a pop at a bloke discussing Rugby on Rugby discussion forum....
anyway I'm missing Saints wigan Maybe we can all discuss it later while you chip in with Some gags......
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I've not once questioned the valifity of the content within Robs posts, though for me, his opinons on Clarke are misguided, but it isn't my position to enforce that onto him, nor vice versa.
I told Rob that he criticised Clarke on a very frequent basis on here, which he does. Rob reacted by telling me that I was talking garbage, I quicky cited numerous examples, all the examples contained Robs opinions, in detail, cool, but they're still criticising Clarke, frequently. I could find heaps more, I'm confident of that.
That was my point, end of. If Rob'd have said "Crikey, didn't realise I crticised him that much, yikes.", Cool. But he tried to make out I was a liar, and still is, when sadly, I spend an awful lot of time on here, I read his stuff week in week out, and there's a constant theme, his criticism of Clarke, in all seriousness, I'm not sure he realises how much he does criticise him.
Does Rob contribute to debate on here, undoubtably. I'd never question that, he offers hearty, lengthy opinions. That wasn't & isn't my point.
As for this Clique business, I speak as an individual on here, always have always will, so I wouldn't sort of, how can I put it, want to have to justify other folks posts, y'know ?
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Si, don`t bother, you know how internet forums work.
Its plain for anyone person to see that he couldn`t and can`t back up his claims that i slate Jon Clarke on a weekly basis, i asked him to post the numerous Jon Clarke threads that i`m supposed to have started on a weekly basis yet he can`t even do that, those threads he highlighted are in no way slating Jon Clarke, those opinions he highlighted ar in the context of a differnet thread and he knows that rather than them being a Jon Clarke slating session, he is clutching at straws to back his origninal claim up and he won`t do it because i don`t slate Clarke on a weekly basis..... The clique can be quite entertaining in their own little sad way
Ive actually praised Clarke quite a bit, not as a hooker but i think he could offer us something a lot different at loose forward than what the inconsistent Vinnie Anderson brings to the table, Jon Clarke has a fair kicking game from ball in hand and he is a much better player when he is running on the fringes in open space as per his performes at loose forward in the past.'"
Not sure where to go with this Rob, we could go on forever. I never said that you started threads, I said that you bagged Clarke, constantly, which you do. For the sake of both of our sanity, I guess I'll have to leave it, as you'll never admit that you are wrong, and will try & find a loophole & call me a liar time & time again.
A page before, you seemed to want mark_m to be man enough to admit that he was wrong, he was a Cullen apologist for too long, maybe now & again, we're all wrong y'know, if you look from a neutral prospective, I don't think i'm right on here 100% of the time, I probably think am when the keys are going ten to the dozen, but hindsight is cool. If you're willing to accept anything, maybe just have a look, you do never miss an opportunity to bag Clarke, and maybe iin your own time, you might sort of see this.
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