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| Quote ="Wires71"Coke is everywhere at bars and clubs I go to in Manchester, especially amongst those with well paid professions.'"
It goes especialy well when mixed with white rum or maybe even Jack Daniels for the habitual user. Or so I heard. |
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| Quote ="RyanWire"FYI I can only read what you write not what you say. That aside you wrote
Which suggests Cocaine covers other stuff up. When asked to prove this you came up with something that has nothing at all to do with Cocaine.'"
But after my 3 minutes on google i typed this out. This is what comes up when you quote me.
Quote I am no expert and not even a laymen but there does appear to be products available to mask performance enhancing drugs. I don't know what they are or for which they intend to mask or hide. All i know is previously when a league player has been found to use a non performance enhancing drug, they are banned not just for bringing game into disrepute, but as it can mask other drugs, which are 'performance enhancing drugs'. '"
Or do you presume i am a 21st Century Apothercary with a big book of drugs and a degree in chemistery. Slim seemed rather surprised that [iany[/i drug could be used to cover up another, so was providing examples. And as i said [ulike[/u cocaine. |
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with the exception of a smoke,most recreational drugs would be of benefit to a sportsman if taken at the correct time so really ban wether recreational or not
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Quote ="Rob Wire"I have no problem whatsoever with people that use recreational drugs if they don`t break the law in any way to fund their habit and as long as it doesn`t affect their performances on the pitch either, Gareth Hock was just plain stupid for getting caught.'"
Just by obtaining the drugs [u is[/u against the law . Most drug users don't have a highly paid job to fund their habit , so have to do some unsocial behaviour to gain their fix . (Fact) be it dealing themselves or car / house crime - they are unfortuately todays social outcasts . Someone you wouldn't invite into your home.
Gareth Hock has been stupid - and if proven ( and he has not yet been proven guilty) has brought shame not just to Wigan, but the whole of Rugby League.
I bet that this news makes it onto the back pages of the Daily Mail and Express -But the winners of the challenge cup won't . (another Fact) played straight into Union hands here . Thanks Hock you plonker
Please take a leaf from another Wigan team from a few years back
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Quote ="Rob Wire"I have no problem whatsoever with people that use recreational drugs if they don`t break the law in any way to fund their habit and as long as it doesn`t affect their performances on the pitch either, Gareth Hock was just plain stupid for getting caught.'"
Just by obtaining the drugs [u is[/u against the law . Most drug users don't have a highly paid job to fund their habit , so have to do some unsocial behaviour to gain their fix . (Fact) be it dealing themselves or car / house crime - they are unfortuately todays social outcasts . Someone you wouldn't invite into your home.
Gareth Hock has been stupid - and if proven ( and he has not yet been proven guilty) has brought shame not just to Wigan, but the whole of Rugby League.
I bet that this news makes it onto the back pages of the Daily Mail and Express -But the winners of the challenge cup won't . (another Fact) played straight into Union hands here . Thanks Hock you plonker
Please take a leaf from another Wigan team from a few years back
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"But after my 3 minutes on google i typed this out. This is what comes up when you quote me.
Or do you presume i am a 21st Century Apothercary with a big book of drugs and a degree in chemistery. Slim seemed rather surprised that [iany[/i drug could be used to cover up another, so was providing examples. And as i said [ulike[/u cocaine.'"
he asked you to prove that cocaine masks performance enhancers. After this you came back and showed him that some substances mask enhancers but not cocaine. Therefore you proved nothing. |
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"But after my 3 minutes on google i typed this out. This is what comes up when you quote me.
Or do you presume i am a 21st Century Apothercary with a big book of drugs and a degree in chemistery..Slim seemed rather surprised that any drug could be used to cover up another, so was providing examples. And as i said like cocaine.'"
you claim i appeared surprised about masking agents............
poppycock, read my post i asked what cocaine masked! i worked testing urine in a detox unit ffs i understand more about drug testing than you've had hot dinners! to split a metaphor
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Taking (or rather get caught taking) recreational drugs - 2 year ban.
Drink drive - carry on playing.
Beat up somebody in their own home - carry on playing.
Glass someone - carry on playing.
Get involved with a counterfeit inkjet cartridge ring (was he ever found guilty?) - carry on playing.
Double standards?
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| Quote ="Wires71"
I find your points are quite crude in construction when dealing with complicated issues.'"
arent they just ................
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"arent they just ................
you big cry baby..........'"
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got it thanks........
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"got it thanks........'"
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Taking (or rather get caught taking) recreational drugs - 2 year ban.
Drink drive - carry on playing.
Beat up somebody in their own home - carry on playing.
Glass someone - carry on playing.
Get involved with a counterfeit inkjet cartridge ring (was he ever found guilty?) - carry on playing.
Double standards?'"
I agree but those are the rules. Players know the score so can't really complain.
I work for a company that specialises in testing for drugs within the workplace and it will be part of a policy that if tested positive for illegal substances or legal drugs without a prescription (where required) can lead to gross misconduct. |
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| Quote ="citywolf"
I agree but those are the rules. Players know the score so can't really complain.
I work for a company that specialises in testing for drugs within the workplace and it will be part of a policy that if tested positive for illegal substances or legal drugs without a prescription (where required) can lead to gross misconduct.'"
I agree, and I'm certainly not condoning drug use. If you're stupid enough to take the risk then you deserve a two year ban if caught. Do it again and life ban.
I just find it fundementally wrong that an individual can do something in the privacy of their own home that hurts nobody except maybe the individual and be banned by the RFL for two years. But another individual, with previous for violence, can attack someone in someone elses girlfriends home and receive a slap on the wrist from his own club.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I agree, and I'm certainly not condoning drug use. If you're stupid enough to take the risk then you deserve a two year ban if caught. Do it again and life ban.
I just find it fundementally wrong that an individual can do something in the privacy of their own home that hurts nobody except maybe the individual and be banned by the RFL for two years. But another individual, with previous for violence, can attack someone in someone elses girlfriends home and receive a slap on the wrist from his own club.
Recreational drug use is the worse offence!
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Exactly, there may be people who are responsible for someone else's death playing in SL yet Hock gets vilified for some recreational drug use.
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| Quote ="FireWire"Exactly, there may be people who are responsible for someone else's death playing in SL yet Hock gets vilified for some recreational drug use.'" Wouldn't they get punished by the courts?
These are RL and sports rules that have ben broken.
Leon Pryce didn't get a ban for his criminal actions, yet a player can get a ban for a grapple tackle or a careless high tackle. The two things aren;t linked. |
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| Quote ="Dave T"Wouldn't they get punished by the courts?
These are RL and sports rules that have ben broken.
Leon Pryce didn't get a ban for his criminal actions, yet a player can get a ban for a grapple tackle or a careless high tackle. The two things aren;t linked.'"
They might be very lucky and get away with it.
I realise Hock has broken the law, but players probably choose recreational drugs over alcohol because it causes less damage to their bodies. Yes I know its illegal, and not condoning drug use. |
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Is Viagra considered performance enhancing?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Is Viagra considered performance enhancing?'"
Your wife says no, sadly. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Your wife says no, sadly.'"
Why would I possibly want to use Viagra with my wife? |
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Why would I possibly want to use Viagra with my wife?'"
Pal, there are better forums if you feel the need to share. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Pal, there are better forums if you feel the need to share.'"
doggersdirect.com? |
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"doggersdirect.com?'"
Works for me, what have you go to lose? |
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I've never used Viagra. I'm not sure married folk should, it just attracts trouble really.
The way I see it, you take this pill, you get a boner, wallop and all that. Problem is then, it stays, so there's a likelyhood that you might be expected to go again at some point. I quite like rolling over, thinking to myself "That'll do me 'til Sunday" and knowing that we're all winners really.
I think, If I had viagra, it'd be the same feeling like when I open the fridge, realise that there's a dozen Mullerlights that are going out of date today, and I need to work my way through them. I enjoy the first one, but gradually they become less & less enjoyable.
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| Quote ="JWP"I've never used Viagra. I'm not sure married folk should, it just attracts trouble really.
The way I see it, you take this pill, you get a boner, wallop and all that. Problem is then, it stays, so there's a likelyhood that you might be expected to go again at some point. I quite like rolling over, thinking to myself "That'll do me 'til Sunday" and knowing that we're all winners really.
I think, If I had viagra, it'd be the same feeling like when I open the fridge, realise that there's a dozen Mullerlights that are going out of date today, and I need to work my way through them. I enjoy the first one, but gradually they become less & less enjoyable.'"
People get married to avoid a two'sie. If you are looking for that, abit on the side is required, Viagra optional. |
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