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| Back in the day...70s and 80s it was the norm to run on the pitch after the game to get autographs off your heros and to pat them on the back as they left the field, occasionally, if the player proved to be exceptional on the day, lifted aloft upon the fans shoulders and carried to the dug out.
They were greats times, not like the pc brigade of today, not that I condone what the Widnes species have done, but I might be very forgiving had they had won.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Back in the day...70s and 80s it was the norm to run on the pitch after the game to get autographs off your heros and to pat them on the back as they left the field, occasionally, if the player proved to be exceptional on the day, lifted aloft upon the fans shoulders and carried to the dug out.
They were greats times, not like the pc brigade of today, not that I condone what the Widnes species have done, but I might be very forgiving had they had won.'"
Indeeed. As an impetuous 8 (I think) year old I scaled the Naughton Park wall to get John Bevan's autograph [iduring the match[/i - there was a break fo an injury so I spied my chance. Bev supplied the autograph, which got pride of place next tome "The Live Wires" pendant, and the WIdnes speccies applauded my heartwarming innocence.
They'd probably have bottled me off the pitch these days.
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| Seems we have one of our own posting on the cas site posing as a Widnes fan.Hope the idiots prosecuted.
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I've must be honest...I found it funny as.
I don't condone it like I said, but it is funny, especially when a kid slips on his arrrrse. When a kid slips the grips of one steward and runs smack bang into another as he does.
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I've must be honest...I found it funny as.
I don't condone it like I said, but it is funny, especially when a kid slips on his arrrrse. When a kid slips the grips of one steward and runs smack bang into another as he does.
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| The pride of the Widnes signing-on queue, this morning. That's if some of them can hold a pen. Most of them are still opening bananas with their feet, and de-lousing each other.
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| I would personally ban them from the cup next year, bricking coaches ans attacking stewards, police and even the mascot has no place in our game!!!
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| Quote ="FireWire"Didn't see the match today, but seemed like disgraceful behaviour by the some of their fans.
How many matches behind closed doors would be a suitable punishment?'"
So you didn't see what went on but you heard trouble involving scousers so you wanted to start a thread stirring things up knowing your main audience hates them.
And you have an avatar saying "don't buy the Sun".
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| Cannot believe people condoning this.
How much damage does it do our sport in the public eye and to commercial partners? It looked appalling on the BBC.
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| Absolute morons. Makes our game look a joke.
Its a good job Widnes rarely play in big games.
Seen people blaming alcohol but im sure Leeds
and Cas fans plus ourselves, would have drank
plenty yet enjoyed the game rather than causing trouble.
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| A few more videos around now;
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| It's inevitable that the powers that be will have to take action against these moronic bottom feeders. If they don't these idiots will believe they can behave like this after every game.
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| The idea of fining Widnes is absolutely abhorrent. This has nothing to do with the Rugby Club.
This is all down to personal responsibility. I hope the Police can actually charge these "people" with the offences they've committed
trespass
vandalism
assault
(I'm assuming) drunk and disorderly
but then again, I wont be holding my breath.
Before we get on our high horses, we've attracted the same kind of low-lives when we've reached semi finals, since I've started watching the game. Our tosspot element should have received appropriate judgement.
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| Got to say fair play to the Cas fans for not reacting. What an absolute shower of pr*cks. Can't say I'm surprised, time and time again there's a group of Widnes fans who think they're big men doing things like this. This time it's not even that group of young lads that are usually the ones causing bother, most of them look easily in their 40's and should know a lot better. The most small time club in rugby league by far, it's just as well they aren't going to Wembley.
I'd also say that the police reaction was very slow.
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| I fear Widnes will get a big fine as the RFL can not fine supporters individually, somebody has to pay for damage done to the ground and to the coaches attacked before the game and this will undoubtedly be the club which is wrong as these were idiots who idea of being a fan is getting drunk and taking your top of (dont get this and never will just makes them look like the fat d******** they are) and standing with arms outstretched goading the winning teams supporters!!!
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| Shame they didn't try and pick a fight with a Cas player, would have been funny seeing those little scrotes get smashed by proper men.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"Don't think they would have got on the pitch if the stewards that were in front of us at the langtree were at leigh today. They were scary, right knuckle-draggers.'"
A number of the stewards at Langtree were actually from Warrington.
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| Quote ="mikej"A number of the stewards at Langtree were actually from Warrington.'"
Not sure about the ones on the pitch, but definitely recognised a few that stood toward the back of West stand.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"The idea of fining Widnes is absolutely abhorrent. This has nothing to do with the Rugby Club.
This is all down to personal responsibility. I hope the Police can actually charge these "people" with the offences they've committed
trespass
vandalism
assault
(I'm assuming) drunk and disorderly
but then again, I wont be holding my breath.
Before we get on our high horses, we've attracted the same kind of low-lives when we've reached semi finals, since I've started watching the game. Our tosspot element should have received appropriate judgement.'"
Spot on lefty
If it's a crime, its for the police to sort out. Widnes RLFC aren't a law enforcement body.
Looking at those videos the perpetrators seem to be nearly all males, late teens or 20s. And I expect close to 100% of them were tanked up with alcohol.
I bet you could take a selection of this 'demographic' from every rugby league playing city/town in the UK and if they didn't have club shirts on you would not be able to tell who supported who.
Its the same demographic that was out in those August 2011 riots nicking trainers and smashing up shops. The problem is they think strength in numbers protects them and they aren't afraid of the police so they do what they like.
The solution is to amp up the security significantly: if you have a tough and vicious enough presence then yes you might get moaning about 'heavy handed stewarding' but you won't get this.
People say there aren't jobs for ex-squaddies when they leave the army, well I would love to hire a load of unemployed ex-squaddies as private security for sporting events, they would soon deal with these kind of fools.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Spot on lefty
If it's a crime, its for the police to sort out. Widnes RLFC aren't a law enforcement body.
Looking at those videos the perpetrators seem to be nearly all males, late teens or 20s. And I expect close to 100% of them were tanked up with alcohol.
I bet you could take a selection of this 'demographic' from every rugby league playing city/town in the UK and if they didn't have club shirts on you would not be able to tell who supported who.
Its the same demographic that was out in those August 2011 riots nicking trainers and smashing up shops. The problem is they think strength in numbers protects them and they aren't afraid of the police so they do what they like.
The solution is to amp up the security significantly: if you have a tough and vicious enough presence then yes you might get moaning about 'heavy handed stewarding' but you won't get this.
People say there aren't jobs for ex-squaddies when they leave the army, well I would love to hire a load of unemployed ex-squaddies as private security for sporting events, they would soon deal with these kind of fools.'"
Agree with both you and Lefty. The only problem we would have then is that some of the idiots would do exactly what they did last year at the HJ when we played Widnes, video the incident and then play half the video. We had a steward absolutely vilified on social media for his actions, when all he actually did was whack someone's hand/arm several times to stop that person hanging on to a crash barrier when they'd been arrested. It looked a lot worse than it was and was used as a smokescreen to mask over some appalling behaviour by the same group of fans.
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| The quality of the Tv cameras used by the BBC are powerful enough to identify 'ALL' the morons that invaded the pitch and caused the trouble,have the police demand the films and hound down these idiots.
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| Those videos on the previous page are embarrassing - The Widnes fans are bad enough, but the Castleford fans chanting 'Yorkshire, Yorkshire' in their best Emmerdale accents, while doing various lewd hand signals, just show why RL will always be looked down upon from the mainstream media.
The next time we have a debate on here about why RU is given preferential treatment in the media over RL, we just need to watch those clips and there will be the answer.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Agree with both you and Lefty. The only problem we would have then is that some of the idiots would do exactly what they did last year at the HJ when we played Widnes, video the incident and then play half the video. We had a steward absolutely vilified on social media for his actions, when all he actually did was whack someone's hand/arm several times to stop that person hanging on to a crash barrier when they'd been arrested. It looked a lot worse than it was and was used as a smokescreen to mask over some appalling behaviour by the same group of fans.'"
This is the type of thing that happens on student 'protests', where there are always stories of "police brutality", "human rights abuses". Someone will be giving it large to the police in a V for Vendetta mask, repeatedly refuse to co-operate and then try to resist arrest with force and then the police will start rough handling them and its all over the internet.
In practice the police probably knew what they were doing with this Widnes pitch invasion. They weren't actually a direct threat to anyone, they were just moping around like losers on the pitch. If they had any nous about them they would have pulled their scarves over their faces like the 'ultras' do to hide their identities but they were too thick to even do that, they just paraded their faces for the cameras for easier identification.
And they ended up getting "que sera sera....we're going to Wembley" sung at them by the Cas fans. They weren't exactly on to a winner going up waving chanting Widnes, when they'd just got beat, they didn't even have anything to taunt the Cas fans with. They just went up to get laughed at and look like tools and now its on the internet too
Yes its embarassing for the game but its pretty embarassing for the guys that did it. I suppose they thought they were being hard and doing some kind of colonial claiming of territory going on the pitch with a Widnes flag, but everyone knew Widnes had just got beat.
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| Can't we dock them sufficient points to put Bradford above them? I know who'd rather have in SL.
You get a better curry in Bradford too.
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| Now that would be interesting if they were docked 10 points this season.
If they get docked 4 points next year they will unlikely make the cut.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"youtu.be/XmCw8k1E-sc
I've must be honest...I found it funny as.
I don't condone it like I said, but it is funny, especially when a kid slips on his arrrrse. When a kid slips the grips of one steward and runs smack bang into another as he does.'"
You are easily amused.
If Wire had won the other semi-final and a gang of marauding Leeds fans invaded our end of the pitch whilst the team were celebrating with the fans, would you have found that amusing?
You obviously forget the occasion when a Widnes fan intervened in a touchline melee and got thumped by Desi Drummond in the confusion. That cost Desi his tour place all due to some mindless moron invading the pitch.
This has happened with Widnes numerous times now and every time it happens the RL and Widnes issue pious platitudes and promise action but what have they achieved? It is time an example was made of both the club and it's supporters.
There is ample video evidence to identify and prosecute the offenders.
The above also applies to the brain dead faction in the Wire ranks and it is pleasing to see that the majority on this board not only don't condone the conduct but vehemently condemn it.
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