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| Prem footballers hit the pop, hit the wife, get convicted of rape and child abuse and no-one says it's indicative of a problem with football. It's [ipeople[/i, most are idiots and add money, ego, drink and/or drugs and you've got uber idiots.
Gelling, if proved guilty, is another example of cowardly, manipulative cruelty in it's worse form. Not the first, sadly not the last. Throw the book at him, thwn escort him out of professional sport, and civilised society, for good.
In terms of impact on the field, virtually zero. He has been one of the more disappointing aspects of a good start to the season.
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| Quote ="Or thane"If this is true and he gets sacked it won't de-rail the club at all, one guy doesn't have that power and if he did the other players would be pretty soft if so. And if it is true theres no guarantee he'll get fired, he'd proberbly go to councelling etc the same as drug users and drink drivers etc'"
Wounding with intent? He'll probably go to prison. (if true/charged etc etc)
But as the club haven't sacked him yet, it might not quite as black and white as it appears.
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| Quote ="Jordan Rankin"Agree with everything above^'"
Are you the real Jordan Rankin?
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"Wounding with intent? He'll probably go to prison. (if true/charged etc etc)
But as the club haven't sacked him yet, it might not quite as black and white as it appears.'"
The club will have taken legal advice, because they don't want to be on the wrong end of an unfair dismissal case. Better to carry out an investigation first before a knee jerk reaction.
Suspending him while that goes on seems sensible and it seems to me like the club has handled this right, taking quick action without going beyond what they should do at this point.
If he is found guilty then his Warrington career will be over.
The real controversy will come if later on someone tries to sign him, and both the league (it may not be SL) and the club involved will have to make an ethical decision on whether it's appropriate, as with Folau.
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| Wow. Just look at the state of this.
As I type, there are 50, yes 50 RL Fans members (with names.. not the 334 guests) and only 19 of them are Wire fans, and it's 4 days before our next match. You'd be lucky to see 8 on here, any normal day. This is just a sad indictment of society has become. Almost two thirds currently have come to gloat.
IF Gelling has transgressed, then I hope he gets the necessary punishment.
However, if its all a storm in a teacup and things have been blown out of proportion, or he's not guilty, and he has no case to answer, I'm afraid he'll still be tarred with a certain brush
Pitchforks and burning torches are out, yet no one's been found guilty. No one but those involved, know what's gone on, but trial by social media, is already in overdrive.
I'm all for reasonable banter on Wire pages. I rarely visit other sites, and I CERTAINLY DON'T gloat on them (some whoppers are still on here, 6 days after a defeat). I hope the mods keep a close eye on this one. "The mob" can be a baying crowd, who'll only be happy with a certain outcome.
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| Quote ="Angelus"They even managed to erase any record of it from the internet. Amazing.'"
You’re very naive if you think every arrest ever made is available in the public domain.
He was arrested, that’s a fact. On the same night Craig Mullen was arrested and subsequently charged.
They did a good job of damage limitation in all fairness. Escare was lucky they’d had so much bad press beforehand, otherwise he’d have been thrown to the wolves. Instead, they covered it up to protect the clubs reputation.
You think it’s just a coincidence he’s hardly had a game since and was shipped to Wakefield?
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| Quote ="Early Bath"I can assure you RD that they are not thick when money is discussed.'"
They are...they're getting screwed by there agents.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The club will have taken legal advice, because they don't want to be on the wrong end of an unfair dismissal case. Better to carry out an investigation first before a knee jerk reaction.
Suspending him while that goes on seems sensible and it seems to me like the club has handled this right, taking quick action without going beyond what they should do at this point.
If he is found guilty then his Warrington career will be over.
The real controversy will come if later on someone tries to sign him, and both the league (it may not be SL) and the club involved will have to make an ethical decision on whether it's appropriate, as with Folau.'"
Yeah, agree with that. It's the legally wise thing to do.
It's pretty stupid, as many have done, to have a go at the club for not sacking him.
I'd expect him to get the Barba treatment, if guilty.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"Wounding with intent? He'll probably go to prison. (if true/charged etc etc)
But as the club haven't sacked him yet, it might not quite as black and white as it appears.'"
Innocent until proven guilty so Wire have handled this in the correct way, as any employer should. Suspension pending investigation is correct and I applaud Warrington for doing so, whilst trusting the judicial (whether legal or RFL) to investigate.
Regardless of the club involved, if everyone followed this example then the bad-boy images mentioned earlier should dwindle......
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| If it was as clear cut as some on here think he would already have been “charged” clearly the CPS/police feel the matter has to be properly investigated before reaching any conclusion, but what do they know?
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"If it was as clear cut as some on here think he would already have been “charged” clearly the CPS/police feel the matter has to be properly investigated before reaching any conclusion, but what do they know?'"
It’s only a matter of time...
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"It’s only a matter of time...'"
If you witnessed the incident I hope you have given your details to the police (and you probably shouldn’t be sharing your evidence on public forums).
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| I can speak only of Barba because there is nothing pending....he couldn't be charged because his wife refused to press charges.
If that can be applied to another player...he will be innocent and if there is some moral battle....pretty sure the club will have to honour the contract in some way.
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| Aside from the serious allegations,is he actually any good as a player? Seems a myth,to me.
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"It’s only a matter of time...'"
Thought you already had a warning.
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| Quote ="Professor Yaffle"Aside from the serious allegations,is he actually any good as a player? Seems a myth,to me.'"
He has impressed me in the first two games.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"If it was as clear cut as some on here think he would already have been “charged” clearly the CPS/police feel the matter has to be properly investigated before reaching any conclusion, but what do they know?'"
Not necessarily there maybe evidence or information that will identify the sevirity of injury. Sometimes expert opinion is required that is not always necessarily available. In addition there could be lines of enquiry that still need to be followed up before a decision to charge a person is considered by CPS
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I have heard the rumours too and it doesn’t make sense to me (what I’ve been told). We had the Morgan Escare drugs arrest last season which turned out to be false.
I’d await official confirmation before going down the ‘life after Gelling’ line'"
While discussing r/l last night, one topic was regarding the bad habits players pick up at wigin.
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| Quote ="redex113"While discussing r/l last night, one topic was regarding the bad habits players pick up at wigin.'"
Poor effort, 1/10
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Not necessarily there maybe evidence or information that will identify the sevirity of injury. Sometimes expert opinion is required that is not always necessarily available. In addition there could be lines of enquiry that still need to be followed up before a decision to charge a person is considered by CPS'"
So it still has to be investigated and isn’t clear cut?
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| Quote ="redex113"While discussing r/l last night, one topic was regarding the bad habits players pick up at wigin.'"
And we have a winner...
We've had a private bet which moron would be first to peddle this. Congratulations, you must be so proud.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"And we have a winner...
We've had a private bet which moron would be first to peddle this. Congratulations, you must be so proud.'"
Have a read of the rest of the thread mate. Some of the visitors on here would keep a shrink busy for months.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"So it still has to be investigated and isn’t clear cut?'"
Err not necessarily you obviously didn't understand my point.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Err not necessarily you obviously didn't understand my point.'"
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| There's nothing new or informative to add let's leave it there folks
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