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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"But we [ido[/i have an offload game - Cooper, Hill, Clarke, Lineham & Hughes in particular are all very adept at getting the ball out of the tackle under pressure.
But they've clearly been told not to. [iThat's[/i the issue.'"
Exactly our problems are all down to coaching. London played brillinant rugby under henderson, I'd keep him and bring in a new coach for him and Paul anderson to work with. I think briers needs some time at a different club as well just to freshen himself up.
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| What's the point in having strike players like Blake Austin, Stef Ratchford, Daz Clarke etc when we've got Sam Allardyce in charge ?
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| Quote ="Paul2812"What's the point in having strike players like Blake Austin, Stef Ratchford, Daz Clarke etc when we've got Sam Allardyce in charge ?'"
Hallelujah, brother
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| Quote ="CW8"Making yards is a problem for us because we have no offload game so the opposition can commit numbers to tackles without worrying about gaps being exploited. We are the victims of our own crappy game plan and playing style. It doesn't need an offload every tackle, just the threat of an offload is enough. We have been dire and toothless and most of it is our own doing, the players can't have enjoyed playing this season.'"
Early season we had a great offload game. I remember at the start of the season everyone was saying how good cooper and lineham were with their offloads, always managing to hit the defenders spin and get the ball away, even from impossible looking positions.
As the season has gone on, the offloading has disappeared.
The players cant have forgotten how to offload so you can only assume that they are told not to offload!!
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| Quote ="CW8"London played brillinant rugby under henderson.'"
Good point. When we played London away in the middle 8s two years ago, their style of rugby was excellent. I wonder how much influence Henderson does or doesn't have in the current set-up.
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| Quote ="Wirelad"Early season we had a great offload game. I remember at the start of the season everyone was saying how good cooper and lineham were with their offloads, always managing to hit the defenders spin and get the ball away, even from impossible looking positions.
As the season has gone on, the offloading has disappeared.
The players cant have forgotten how to offload so you can only assume that they are told not to offload!!'"
i've said it on here a few times, saints away, we hit a brick wall, we then followed that up with the salford kicking at home, and we became an unrecognizable team.
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| Apparently,as an added novelty bonus ,next year's season ticket will contain a bite off suicide pill for when you can't take any more.
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| Quote ="ninearches"Apparently,as an added novelty bonus ,next year's season ticket will contain a bite off suicide pill for when you can't take any more.'"
Can I have mine now.
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| You can get one from the club shop Karetaker , but be quick it will be a samaritans branch next season.
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| Quote ="ninearches"You can get one from the club shop Karetaker , but be quick it will be a samaritans branch next season.'"
Il fone them first then.
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| At the moment, I'd rather have VINCENT Price (in his current state, dead for 20odd years) than the current incumbent.
We'll have old Vinny, and Hollywood can have The Curse of the Chinless Wonder. Soon to be "starring" in a remake of The Abominable Dr Phibes
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"At the moment, I'd rather have VINCENT Price (in his current state, dead for 20odd years) than the current incumbent.
We'll have old Vinny, and Hollywood can have The Curse of the Chinless Wonder. Soon to be "starring" in a remake of The Abominable Dr Phibes'"
He is not dead he is a vampire so he should be ok as most our games are at night. No need to worry about Sunday’s
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| Paul Rowley has certainly made an impact at Salford.... seems to have coincided with Salford’s amazing form in the second half of the season.
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| Well can't give you an argument but Salford have got their small squad fit.
They have a resilience akin to London.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Well can't give you an argument but Salford have got their small squad fit.
They have a resilience akin to London.'"
They actually play some really entertaining stuff as well although the vast majority of it comes through Hastings. Compared to us & how we play I’d rather watch that brand and style of rugby.
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| Possibly a good thing going out last night we would of only been embarrassed by salford again next week , Anyway a good game in store tomo at Monk's as Woolston play their last league game of the season where victory will see them crowned champions of NCL Div 3
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| Quote ="karetaker"Il fone them first then.'"
Mark. Phone first !
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| At the minute i would rather have asda price.
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| My impression in the early part of the season was that we had been quite lucky to be in second place. The second half collapse at Wakefield was extremely worrying. Our “style” has got worse as the season progressed. I originally thought this was down to the Ratchford absence, but actually it is much deeper rooted.
The unexpected win at Wembley was fantastic, but I don’t think it should be enough to save Price. Our wingers have seen next to no attacking chances in the second part of the season. At times it looks like we are playing on a pitch half as wide as the opposition. This must be a result of the coach’s game plan/tactics.
I’m by inclination normally in the “trust the coach” camp. I certainly was for both Cull and TS until almost the bitter end, but not in this case.
Can’t see it happening though.
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| Feels to me like the coach has a very fixed gameplan and it is being followed to the letter with a complete lack of enthusiasm. It must be boring to play and how can you train to play this game plan?
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| At the final whistle in the CC final I thought, at the time, the players euphoric reaction to Price was quite telling. It felt like they knew his methods were under scruitiny and they were as pleased for him as anyone.
In hindsight and viewing the season as a whole, maybe it was just that - pure euphoria. I don't know how the players feel about playing to such a restrictive "plan" but if I was blessed with the ability of Ratch, Clarke, Currie, Austin etc. I'd be pretty fed up with it.
As has been mentioned, around the time of the Saints & Salford defeats something changed. Offloads disappeared, Austin's performances went into decline (his inclusion in the dream team says more about the quality of SL halves than anything else) and we reverted to five drives and the toby kick.
That can of only come from the coaches and strikes me as weak, reactionary and lacking belief in your team. However, I currently have less fair in the clubs management than its coaching staff so I don't expect any changes, sadly.
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| As much as I love flowing rugby, I enjoyed the dominant grind of our Challenge Cup final. Possibly one of the best games I'd seen since the dominant attack display once again at Wembley in 2010...the games of 2011 was what followed.
Are we being treated to what our club brought in....An NRL template style....I wonder if Big Roy AsItEasy had his time again, he'd be just what we need?
Are we being hypocritical to desire to be the greatest club in world rugby, but criticise the structure that has been the model in Australia for decades?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Are we being hypocritical to desire to be the greatest club in world rugby, but criticise the structure that has been the model in Australia for decades?'"
To play that style you need a big pool of tough, uncompromising forwards which means you maintain that overwhelming grind over 80 mins and regardless of substitutions.
Ever since I can remember the Kangaroos have had that luxury. in 2019 Warrigton don't - we have Hill & Cooper and when they depart the intensity drops. You can't play a tough, high intensity, unyielding game without the players 1-17 to deliver it.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"To play that style you need a big pool of tough, uncompromising forwards which means you maintain that overwhelming grind over 80 mins and regardless of substitutions.
Ever since I can remember the Kangaroos have had that luxury. in 2019 Warrigton don't - we have Hill & Cooper and when they depart the intensity drops. You can't play a tough, high intensity, unyielding game without the players 1-17 to deliver it.'"
Congratulations, MIAW, you've won the internet, today
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| Minus the CC...
If we'd had started the season the way we finished it.... would Price still be our head coach?
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