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| Quote ="mark_m"Wigan seemed to have cleaned up the third man in late chopping at the joints but it appears to be back now with a vengeance. Shocking that something is being done on the field that can injure a fellow professional.'"
It's almost as if Paul Wood hadn't assaulted a Wigan player unprovoked.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"It's almost as if Paul Wood hadn't assaulted a Wigan player unprovoked.'"
Was that the one where three Warrington players held the Wigan player and Wood beat him with a crow bar from behind
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| I have to say the Wood v Pettybourne "biff" was rather lame; I think they both got sin-binned so they could go and find a mirror to practice their timing against. My mother shows more raw aggression every Sunday finding her favourite pew at church.
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| Walmsley sent off for Saints v Hudds for the kind of tackle McCollorum would blush about. RL disciiplinary panel really need to get a grip because we now have another player (Luke Robinson) being helped off the field, and yesterday of course Laithwaite exiting on a stretcher.
RL has always been the toughest sport on the planet, but also the most honest, and that needs to be preserved.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"It's almost as if Paul Wood hadn't assaulted a Wigan player unprovoked.'"
I don't think so Suzy woozy... it was two blokes looking each other in the eye, one giving the other verbals and coping one on the chin for it......... that is not assault on a rugby league pitch, you should know that having played the game yourself.
I know all the lads I played with would have no problem someone looking you in the eye and letting you have a taste...its honest..harsh and brutal........ but honest.
getting one late high and while your back is turned, or 3rd man in and low at the knee joint is not honest its a cheap house tactic and its a well known Wigan Tactic....
Wigan Used to be famous for playing the best brand of Rugby League in this country now they aren't.
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| These are the worse set of officials I've ever seen.
We have video technology, and they still fluff it up
They're "looked after" better than they've ever been (in terms of meetings/training/pay), and they still fluff it up
They have an extra 2 officials, when TV cameras aren't there, and they still fluff it up.
At times, I pine for the days of
Thompson
Lindop
Whitfield
Campbell
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I HATED these b@st@rds with a passion, who were some of the most corrupt onanists you'll ever see, but, when bungs weren't given, they refereed well.
Today's lot are just plain incompetant
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| Thing is, coaches and players have clearly cottoned onto the fact that the officials seem prepared to let almost anything go in the name of speed of the game and are, frankly, criminally abusing it to the detriment of the product. Watching some teams it's hard not to think they spend all their training time working out how to milk penalties, steal an advantage, push their luck and basically, cheat as opposed to actually honing skills.
T'wasn't always thus.
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| ....another huge fluff up in the last minute
Stains player goes for a dg, get's charged down (which nullifies offside) and Silverwood....well, you can guess the rest.
FFS, Why are these twunts employed
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"....another huge fluff up in the last minute
Stains player goes for a dg, get's charged down (which nullifies offside) and Silverwood....well, you can guess the rest.
FFS, Why are these twunts employed'"
Nope players in front of the kicker when kick made remain offside regardless surely?
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| Quote ="mark_m"Nope players in front of the kicker when kick made remain offside regardless surely?'"
No, if it's deliberately played at, which charging down a kick is, it's play on. It happened in your game yesterday before Wigan's 1st try when Sarginson ran 40 metres after being played onside by you charging the kick down.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, if it's deliberately played at, which charging down a kick is, it's play on. It happened in your game yesterday before Wigan's 1st try when Sarginson ran 40 metres after being played onside by you charging the kick down.[/
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Now then.. clarification needed. The players were more than ten metres in front of the kicker so not sure they can be played onside.
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| Quote ="mark_m"
If I am not mistaken, the player rushing in to make the charge down missed it and it actually hit a Huddersfiled player further back who hadn't played at the ball (think it came off his back). It then went to LMS who was in an offside position. The ref's decision was therefore correct. Unusually for Silverspud.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Now then.. clarification needed. The players were more than ten metres in front of the kicker so not sure they can be played onside.'"
I don't have a rule book to quote from but I'm pretty sure any player is played onside by a deliberate touch from an opposition player and that charging a kick down is always classed as a deliberate touch. I've only watched it live however and not on Sky so if I'm wrong on that fair enough, I'm not particularly bothered about the game tonight, we've not deseverd anything from this season.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I don't have a rule book to quote from but I'm pretty sure any player is played onside by a deliberate touch from an opposition player and that charging a kick down is always classed as a deliberate touch. I've only watched it live however and not on Sky so if I'm wrong on that fair enough, I'm not particularly bothered about the game tonight, we've not deseverd anything from this season.'"
there were saints players in front of the play the ball, they cannot be played onside,
The officials are awful. Both Thursdays and Fridays game showed. He went to the video ref for things that they culdnt see until they looked at the ref cam and he was a metre away looking right at it, why didnt he just call it!!!
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"He delivered what I feared, predicted and expected - a criminally slow play the ball, no policing the markers and disregard to forward passes. Letting the game flow is fine, but when it means teams can slow the game up, encroach in the 10 and generally spoil then it detracts from the game somewhat. I'd much rather a ref penalise early, warn the captains and then expect the teams to learn.
Still, it was what I expected. What I didn't expect was that McColorum would indulge in a spate of foul play that exceeded even his low standards, would put Hock to shame and culminated in a cowardly and violent attack on an unsighted Laithwaite. Bentham bottled that one.'"
100% spot on..was mccloride put on report if so it`ll be interesting to see what punishment is served up..moon got a 2 match ban for his ill discipline mccloride should get the same,after all fairs fair,,
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| The RFL need a wake up call re the interpretation & policing of the laws of the game ,particularly when season or even career ending injuries are inflicted all in the name of winning at all costs. The clubs these days are running with threadbare squads due to lack of available talent ,partly through lack of interest in the game from up & coming youngsters ,& in this matter the disbanding of the academy system hasn't helped & also a shortage of bums on seats at games is reducing money for players to be brought in....even Australia is short of good players coming through hence an increase in English players turning out for NRL clubs.
If the RFL don't stamp out these sly & nasty tactics these threadbare squads will mean some clubs will struggle to fulfil their fixtures to a superleague standard.The RFL ,through their referees, need to act before it is too late for the game we love.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"There is a lot wrong with refereeing in SL. But you always seem to notice it more when you lose.
The ref in the Saints v Wire game was just as bad last week, some of the decisions he made were absolutely comical and he had no control over the game at all and ended up being overruled several times by the touch judges and TV refs.
The one thing that is doing my head in the most at the moment is moving off the mark at the play the ball. There was a passage of play tonight where Chris Hill won the collision but was tackled and got up next to the tackler, moved past him and took another couple of steps and played the ball falling into the marker, playing the ball 2 or 3 metres from where he should have. It happens all the time these days, the tackled player moving to the side of past the tacklers to play the ball.'"
Annoying isn't it. It was just as annoying though when Joynt and Sculthorpe did it at nearly every play the ball they took.
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| Apart from the poor standard of referees who do not seem to have a grasp of the rules of the game, I don't think matters are helped by this obsession of 'letting the game flow' which means infringements are sometimes punished and sometimes not. In these circumstances professional sportsmen and their coaches are invited to take liberties.
Some years ago in a match v Leeds at Wilderspool there was a newish referee called Cummings in charge and a promising young forward called Morley playing for Leeds. Cummings, in the first half, quite rightly IMO, penalised both sides for every infringement and the crowd were whinging about the stop start nature of the game. However, in the second half, both teams got the message, played to the rules and the game flowed much better. Also In the second half Mr Morley walked for persistent head high tackles (Does that ring a bell) and I thought Mr Cummings had done a first class job.
Morley got sending off sufficient which was ridiculous and I can only think Cummings got a talking to about 'letting the game flow' because I have never saw him referee a game like that again.
What is the point of having a rule book if,
1. The referees don't know the rules.
2. Selectively apply them or
3. Ignore them altogether
When a ref's decision can have such a crucial effect on the outcome of a game, it seems farcical to me.
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| Silverwood offside incident. He deemed it not a charge down which if you look at the incident again is feasible, so if he interpreted that way then LMS is indeed offside.
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| Those who were at the game (I wasn't, my shoddy excuse being I live a couple of hundred miles and a stretch of water away) may not be aware but at half-time Jon Wells showed that that second try should not have been given by the video referee, he circled Flynn's hand and slowed the frames and it was clearly detached from the ball. I don't moan about decisions here but I am mightily relieved that didn't make the difference in the end, I thought we got the wrong end of some other decisions and it would have compounded the injustice.
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| Quote ="MarginMeter"Those who were at the game (I wasn't, my shoddy excuse being I live a couple of hundred miles and a stretch of water away) may not be aware but at half-time Jon Wells showed that that second try should not have been given by the video referee, he circled Flynn's hand and slowed the frames and it was clearly detached from the ball. I don't moan about decisions here but I am mightily relieved that didn't make the difference in the end, I thought we got the wrong end of some other decisions and it would have compounded the injustice.'"
Towards the latter part of the game on a high Widnes ball, I am convinced I saw Tickle knock the ball into Ratch but the video ref gave a Ratch knock on. Some poor calls today.
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| There were several things to complain about the reffing today. Not the best display I've seen, but the messing about at the ptb was really wearisome.
So slow - more so by Widnes imo, but we were no angels either.
Last man gets off really slowly and keeps his hand on the ball. Very frustrating. (Like our 1st half display).
Who do people think of as good refs though???????
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| I don't think Widnes were square all night. As for the Russell tackle, awful. Can't believe we didn't even get a penalty. The high tackle on Bridge in the first half should've been at least a yellow as well.
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| I don't think you can give a yellow for a high tackle unless it is for repetitive offences. Its either red or just a penalty.
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| Quote ="Meefy"I don't think you can give a yellow for a high tackle unless it is for repetitive offences. Its either red or just a penalty.'"
The high shot on Bridge was the 4th consecutive high shot, 3 of which were penalised. I said at the time that he had to get 10 minutes. The refs have to adequately punish repeat offences, especially when they are dangerous.
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