They cannot, or will not, read a room.

If we have or had a team of players with poor attitude ,is it possible our overseas signings over the last few years ,even in Smith's time , have contributed to player attitude. In recent years we have seen some very poor imports on big money who have extracted the urine out of the club. Perhaps our long term players, on less money, have followed their lead. There have definitely been problems with our scouting procedure. Strangely enough we seem to have bucked our ideas up in that department since DP arrived ,providing we can keep these bruisers injury & suspension free.

I get where you're coming from, but would hope that the threat of relegation would suffice.

We need to keep them Championship free first and foremost.

Let's be candid - relegation would kill us for years. The players would rip up their contracts, the corporate sponsors would jump ship and dry up and revenue streams would be hit massively.

The owners already treat the club like a toy, so don't be suprised if they find somewhere else to spend their money if we go down.

Anybody saying relegation might be a good thing is baffling to me. Nothing good can come of that, we'd be stuffed

We’d probably try and bung the powers that be a few million to keep us up and make it a 14 team league.

Yeah if we got relegated we would not win a league championship for 50 years or more.



But I do get your point and did caveat with "maybe".

How do you know he’s been warned twice? And about what?

To be fair I've not heard this mate re: being on his second warning. Surely , if that were the case it would be a headliner on here, or somewhere and not just a passing comment. If this is true, then it sort of blows my last post out of the water completely



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We’ve clearly planned for 2023 to be in Super League. I’d dread to imagine what our squad would look like next year if we go down. It’s all well and good signing the likes of Maguire and Vaughan for 2023, but we need action now not in February 2023.

We’re NOT going down….just to be clear.

Just to be clear, there only seems to be you enjoying it

Where's this coming from?
I simply can't understand that statement.

The board have (perhaps miguidedly) put in lots of money and supported the coaches.
Is this criticism because they appointed the main people including KF and haven't got rid?

Which, as it’s my life, is absolutely fine mate.

Let's be clear, any money put in by directors will likely be put in as loans / share capital. If they decide to call it a day with the club they could demand the repayment of their loans and cash in their shares.
This is dangerous ground. Its one of the reasons I have been concerned with Powell's management, the poor performances affect the gate receipts, the sale of season tickets, replica shirts, future sponsors, private boxes etc. All the while people are arguing about the best position for players....its a business folks, the people in charge can do without the distractions and loss of prestige of being associated with a team whiçh can't win games. We need a winner coach, not one who has won a handful of games in the last 12 months if we include his last club Castleford as well. The club needs to quickly review what it wants to achieve and do!something about it. Rubbing along the bottom of the league and thinking that missing relegation is a result is not the ambition of a Warrington club.

I think a few people think it they were serious about it, they would appoint a serious CEO and exec team.

#KissKamOut

I don't think we'll get relegated, but whilst it's a mathematical possibility then the board need to take it very seriously because it would kill this club.

Even us just staying up this year will have a huge financial impact on the club for next season as fans will not be forking out their hard earned to come and be "entertained" with a continuation of the rubbish we've had to put up with this year.

We are not a project for a stubborn coach who seemingly cannot inspire even players he has worked with for years.....we are The Wire, and we deserve so much better.

If saints go to Wakefield and put in a wire type performance and get walloped then tha alarm bells will be ringing louder than they've ever done.. remember saints at London a few years back and Toulouse early this season.

Their last two league fixtures are versus Wakefield and Toulouse.

It looks like the Top Spot for Saints will be already secured by then, so I expect them to field an Academy Team , for at least one of those games.

Believe there's 3 academy guys in saints squad today.hmmmm

Who cares what team Saints put out, it’s our club that as got us in this position not Saints.

Strong St Helens team anyway

Agreed. But personally I don't trust the Wires players to dig us out of the hole we're in, so we need a few favours startinf today with Saints.