i bet you did.

1/10 you breast

Childs refereed both halves completely differently.

thats got to be the biggest pile of ever.

I'm watching the highlights and at 13 minutes youve just had three in our ten already

Might have seemed like that, but the discipline was much better second half. Which penalties did you not agree with in the first half? They were all pretty obvious.

The result was always going to be tight, I'm gutted how it was won in the dying seconds, but I'm happy we seem to be competing again against top 4, and on another day we would have been home and dry,, I'm off to put 50.00 notes on CC,, we have a team that can win any game but not consistency to win a league,, we are as we all know a few players short of top spot,, but I sniff silverware!!!!!

Yeah my bad, second half. We had 1 in your 20 and 6 in your 40 second half. Brave effort from us, given we lost Wilkin so early as well.

me haha

it was the most one sided referring display of all time.

If we sign Sandow on a short term deal next week, is he eligible for the CC?

I thought it had been confirmed by Eels coach that Sandow will have to wait until next year to come here?

yes

the 1st forward pass he blew for from dwyer was a little harsh seen plenty of them given , wasn't to be our night i guess 4 times over the try line to be held up forward pass or ball knocked out , another game could of gone different , suppose Chris Hill is a sore loser too he even said post match interview to many 50/50s went the way of the 's

I might get this stat wrong as well, but wasn't the penalty count even at half time?

the most irrelevant stat in rugby.

i think we all know its about time and place.

Do you not think that Dwyer has a weakness in his game when he turns his shoulders almost forty-five degrees passing one way? It's fine when he knows his face of direction and adjusts to be perfectly perpendicular with the half-way or try-lines. But if somehow he ends up arcing in toward the sidelines (and - even worse - is late making the pass) that shoulder twist is in danger of meaning he propels the ball forward rather than behind.

Maybe it's a bad habit from the juniors, some kind of "tic" etc.

i dont think it was even in the second half..i may be wrong but i dont think we (saints) got ONE free kick..

The annual surrender and our next year begins................there are plenty of games left towards the grand final with lots of twists and turns, Wire can still have a big impact yet.

I agree Judder that there is still all to play for, assuming we make the 8 then as long as we aren't faced with a Herculean task to catch 4th then who knows...it's only warming up

Positives

1. Our normal issues of being camped out at the line and just swinging the ball left and right with no clue weren't apparent tonight. We attacked with purpose, and crossed the line several times. The speed we moved up the field for the England (no) try was something I've not seen for a long while.

While having tries chalked off for silly mistakes is frustrating, I'd rather that than watch the clueless attacking dross ending in a grubber kick that we've been subjected to for most of this season.

2. Brad Dwyer. Previously we've had the luxury of bringing Moz and Monaghan/Higham off the bench, who could change the game when they came on, rather than just affording the first choice guys a rest. For me Dwyer falls into this category. He can change the tempo of a game. He showed it again tonight against Super League's best.

3. Defense. Masoe's try was a missed tackle from Westwood, and Turner's was just a case of throwing it around in the last couple of minutes. Can't really blame our defense for those. Apart from that, the game was played at the right end of the pitch, particularly in the second half. Saints didn't really look threatening after the first 10 minutes, and despite us gifting them countless penalties in the first half, they couldn't capitalise.

Wrong as usual.

Childs won the game for saints ,maybe we should buy refs rather than players

The Masoe missed tackle that broke the line was through Ratchford.

I really like Dwyer but he doesn't seem to have a great engine and seems to tire rapidly. He needs to work on his endurance in the off season.

I have never seen as much persistent offside go unpunished since last time we played Saints & how Masoe stayed on the pitch is beyond me...he threw a punch & whether he hit his own player accidentally or not the intent was still there to punch an opponent. At the very least it should have been put on report. It's ok saying the ref let the game flow but if rules of the game are not upheld they may as well be scrapped & we can call ourselves Rugby Union again.

It was Ratchford and it was a pure example why he should have been rested. You play an injured guy at this level of intensity he gets found out, regardless how important he is to the team.

I said prior to the gave I would rest him, it was written all over him at Wakefield that he needed a break.
He made two calamities through a loose carry and fatigue but worse, he offered little contribution throughout the rest of the game.

It is was another TS mistake. The team are getting fingers pointed but TS shouldn't be exempt. He made at least three coaching errors yesterday.

1.Playing Ratchford
2.Taking off Dwyer in the second half when we had momentum, but the time he brought him back on, we hadn't got the time to turn the game....perhaps that is two coaching errors.
3. When the decision was made to go for the penalty goal, we should have subbed on all of our biggest drivers on the field of play to keep possession and get yardage for a drop goal.

You win the prize for the most ridiculous post I have seen in the last 5 years!

When players from BOTH sides start complaining you know he has got it wrong.

Perhaps you may want to explain why the two half's resulted in such differing number of penalties, and yes Wire benefited greatly from this, the Penny try would not have been given in the first half, at the tackle Burns tried to milk a penalty for us interfering( and I think we did!) but dip stick Child just waved it away.

can honestly say the first halfs referring was very very poor, too many wrong calls and too many poor guesses ( For both sides but the majority against Warrington) . Somebody had a word with him at half time. He refereed the second half much better and it resulted in a much better game.