Too many forwards? Not enough strength in the backs?
Just thinking.

Any strength in the Dwyer to Wigan in return rumour?

Given what your Chairman said were the circumstances of his leaving ie surplus to requirements I would hope not!

Don't think I've been more disappointed, since seeing Ulrika Johnson in THAT topless photo.

Happy days

Dom Crosby is Jack Hughes' best mate so that will have helped him come this way. Also Wigan signing Navarette and Leuluai doesn't come cheap and will mean them having to offload players to create cap space. Wigan fans can smirk and think what they want but he held their No.8 shirt and is a tough solid go forward prop. Williams will be going nowhere. Leuluai and Williams will be 6 & 7 next year for them. Leuluai coming back will have been a huge reason why Matty Smith moved on, couple that with the fact he's a Saints lad then there you go. There was a good number of clubs showing interest In Smith and Wire was one of them. I'm glad we didn't as we have our halves more than covered but when he was a Salford looking for a move we should have snapped him up then. Instead of sticking with the Myler project who is still steadily going downhill.

So our pack is looking like ...

Props:
Hill Cooper Crosby Harrison Sims Philbin

Hookers:
Clark ???

Back row:
Currie Savelio Weswood Hughes Westerman Wilde

Well for me it would be ...

Full backs:
Russell Johnson

Wingers:
Lineham Penny

Centres:
Ratchford TKing Penny Atkins

Half backs:
Sandow Patton Gidley

Looking at it we could do with two more wingers. One high quality one to have Penny as cover for (as Smith clearly doesn't rate Penny despite the contract extension) and one (maybe a young lad) as cover for Lineham

And George King.

Looking at George now I think our injury prone front row last year will be the making of him. He definitely needed game time and improved massively as the season went on. If we never had those injuries I am not sure he would have got the opportunity of a run in the team that he evidently needed. Don't get me wrong he is by no means the finished article but he is a good cover prop who won't let us down.

What is it about his game you like? I must be missing something with king because I don't see him being a super league player long term.

Just his development to be honest, I really didn't rate him for a long time but he put in some solid steady performances at the back end of the season. Enough to convince me that he is on the right track anyway.

From what ive heard. All our offseason business has been concluded. unfortunately as I think we ned a centre and another winger personally

I'd be disappointed with our backline going in to next season. I would have liked to see a left winger signed.

If that is the case, we can't have spent much on transfer fees considering we must have grossed an additional £1m this year.

Centres make wingers what they are. That being said Wingers need some sort of nouse to finishing with a try in tight spaces. You'll never get that with Russell. We need 1 centre and 1 winger IMO.

At least that means it looks like Sandow is staying. If he can regain that early season form, then we have the best and most watchable player in the league.

Penny and Lineham are OK by me. Just pick 'em and shuffle the rest of the backs. They'll score tries if you pick 'em and then
pass them the ball. I think Tony Smith got carried away with defence and the scoot.

We probably don't have the salary space to bring in a quality centre and winger.

Gidley, Sandow (marquee), Sims, hill, Clarke, ratchford will all be on big money... So unless we lose some we cannot replace the likes of evans and penny who won't be on much money in comparison.

I'd say that was a fair assessment as far as cap space is concerned you'd presume that Cooper Crosbie and Savelio are on more collectively than Bailey Cox and Dodds perhaps assisted by Laithwaite and B Evans going, also are any of the other lads staying getting a pay rise?

Signing a new top winger and or centre you would have thought would need us to shift two or three decent earners

I would estimate only 4 in inc Harrison with 5 out, wouldn't leave us with much, if any spare cap.
Just a simple maths guess would tell you, were spent up.

There isn't going to be any major signing. Perhaps some youths.

I just wonder if the 'new centre' is Toby King. He got quite a lot of exposure at the back of last year ( I was surprised to see he featured in 16 games) and seemed to have kicked on a fair bit. Meanwhile presumably Patton and Smith will be understudies for the halfback positions and will get considerably more game time. I thought the tackling from Morgan Smith was pretty impressive as well, so if Dwyer were to leave ......... So that really only leaves us with the wing position. We know TS has been actively looking for a new man at Wakey, Cas and abroad. Perhaps this is the only major signing we are now lookng at ??

We also have Ben Julian who can play centre. I think he had a hand injury last season saw it bandaged up which may have been one reason he didn't play much.

He's not quite the world class attacking, "wingers" centre though is he.

Rumour doing the rounds is Sandow and Dwyer leaving Warrington with Taufua and Hardaker coming in.

Little point having outside backs without creative halves. Sandow, if fit, must be top priority. He could get a traffic cone to score 20 tries a year.