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| Quote ="Deus Dat Incrementum"I think the ball that Wrench threw that ended up in touch was a bit of a 50/50. Between him and Ashton. Ok. Wrench should have known where his winger was but on the same token I dont think his winger should have been 5 yards behind him.
Unless I am mistaken I dont recall the pass being a mile forward.
I reckon that has been practiced dozens of time preseason.
Also the play near the end of the game when Wrench nearly put Ashton away was perhaps a dumb play but again on the same token Ashton should have caught it and was under the sticks.
So for me it is 50/50.
When I rewatched this incident on TV on a recording I made, the pass From Wrench to Ashton was a "No Look" pass which is done in order for it to be a very quick pass to put the winger clear.
It wasn`t forward, but Ashton was much further behind play than Wrench expected him to be. They will need to fine tune this move, but I expect that we will see this move again, hopefully with a better outcome.
The pass to Ashton in the dying seconds of the match was dumb football, when we had the game in the bag, and I think Powell will have given him a bollocking for it.
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| Daft decision to appeal it.
The only rationale I can think of is that they thought they had a chance of getting him in for the Cas match and if it went wrong he’ll “only” miss an extra game vs Toulouse that we expect to win easily - which as we know with Warrington is dangerous thinking!!
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| What’s done is done. We lose a second rower for Cas and Toulouse, but thankfully it’s a position we have cover for.
The lesson here is that we need to be super disciplined now. Also we need to be better at driving the ball in (the forwards often took the ball standing still last week) and we need to tidy up the rustiness. If se can fix those little things we can be dangerous even with a light pack.
I agree about Wrench. Those mistakes weren’t purely down to him, and he performed better than most last week. If those two passes had come off we’d all be praising that left wing partnership as the most lethal in the comp.
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| I thought that it was the wrong decision to appeal but I guess that the rationale was;
We have a case.
We are short in the pack vs. Cas (Hughes not fit, D Clark ruled out) but should have bodies back for Toulouse game.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Keep the Squad the same and put either Longstaff or Ellis Robson in the second row. I love King but i agree he should wait until Wrench stops performing until he gets his spot back......and my god are we back to the stupid "King to second row" comments again
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If you are referring to my original mention of King to second row, I said it was something that Price had tried, and it remains to be seen whether Powell will follow suit. Please explain how that is a stupid comment?
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"
Sorry. Don’t agree with this. Wrench’s pass was indeed a mile forward and Ashton was well placed for a more directed pass. I can’t help feeling that Ashton gets more criticism on here than others when mistakes are made. The same last season when more was made about his mistakes than Thewlis’ errors.
All 3 are great prospects with massive potential and will in our side long term. Wrench and Ashton must be the fastest duo in Super League and will counter the loss of Mamo.
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| Quote ="The Speculator"If you are referring to my original mention of King to second row, I said it was something that Price had tried, and it remains to be seen whether Powell will follow suit. Please explain how that is a stupid comment?'"
I don't see it as stupid either. Centres switch to SR and SR's play centre in lots of clubs. In the modern game there's not much difference. Personally I would probably put Longstaff in but having King at SR doesn't worry me at all.
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| King can bide his time or perhaps get a show off the bench, but no way can you drop Wrench dead for King. Sends out the wrong signals to the lad.
Competition is healthy… Wrench has the shirt on merit. King will need to force his way back in, not given a golden ticket.
King is s risk returning from injury anyway.
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| Al depends on where Hughes, Longstaff and Robson are in DP's pecking order, and fitness. I thought the appeal against Holmes' one match ban was a wild gamble.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"I thought the appeal against Holmes' one match ban was a wild gamble.'"
Me too - wild and unnecessary. It's glaringly obvious that the disciplinary folks are in crackdown mode (as they always are with something or other in the first few weeks of a season), so an appeal was very unlikely to be upheld. The smart decision would have been to just suck it up on this occasion and try to keep on the right side of the committee.
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| Quote ="The Speculator"Me too - wild and unnecessary. It's glaringly obvious that the disciplinary folks are in crackdown mode (as they always are with something or other in the first few weeks of a season), so an appeal was very unlikely to be upheld. The smart decision would have been to just suck it up on this occasion and try to keep on the right side of the committee.'"
For the future, there may be a knock on effect of a bigger ban should Holmes reoffend.
I'm concerned that another one match ban for the same offence now turns into two, or a two match ban now turns into three. We've moved on Lineham, whose card was well and truly marked by the RFL disciplinary committee, why make another rod for your own back with Holmes. Agree with you, should have just sucked it up.
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| Barring any late injuries in the warm up, the squad is.....
Ratchford
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Matautia
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Williams
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Cooper's ill. Wrench is injured.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Barring any late injuries in the warm up, the squad is.....
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Ashton
Williams
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Walker
Mulhern
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Thewlis
Cooper's ill. Wrench is injured.'"
Would have liked an additional prop on the bench, with Butler coming into the squad to replace Cooper, but it looks like Thewlis will play fullback while Ratchford moves to hooker to give Walker a rest.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Would have liked an additional prop on the bench, with Butler coming into the squad to replace Cooper, but it looks like Thewlis will play fullback while Ratchford moves to hooker to give Walker a rest.'"
Personally think Walker is capable of doing the full 80, like you I would of preferred another prop on the bench.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Barring any late injuries in the warm up, the squad is.....
Ratchford
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Williams
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Walker
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Cooper's ill. Wrench is injured.'"
Woh……hang on a cotton picking second here. Cooper not playing? Holy sheet! Seriously? We now have NO good props in the 17. Double jeepers….
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| I almost had it spot on, I didn't get the memo about copper being ill obviously.
It's a good team, I like thewlis on the bench to cover a few position's I think wrench probably would have taken that spot if he wasn't injured. Cooper missing is a massive blow, the rest of the pack really need to step up tonight.
Hopefully the team will be confident after Saturday and we see an improved performance. Cas will want to bounce back though, I just hope we get the job done again.
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| That’s a massive blow without Cooper. Not at all confident now. Is King ready to slot in yet if Wrench is out?
That’s twice sick in a few weeks for Cooper. And Clarke looked to be about 30% fit last week. Must be a bug going round the camp.
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| Well, this will be a real test for our props given our only decent one isn't playing. I'm not confident about tonight after this. Cooper makes such a difference.
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| Sorry - have I missed something?
When did the 'Cooper' issue arise?
Now I dont spend hours on here, but Ive never seen a post from Paul2812 before even though allegedly hes made over 2000. Maybe on the Cas board?
I'll believe it either when I see it or when a poster I recognise confirms it.
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| Quote ="fez1"Sorry - have I missed something?
When did the 'Cooper' issue arise?
Now I dont spend hours on here, but Ive never seen a post from Paul2812 before even though allegedly hes made over 2000. Maybe on the Cas board?
I'll believe it either when I see it or when a poster I recognise confirms it.'"
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I've seen many posts from Paul, and recognise the avatar as I've lost a few quid on it in the past.
Cooper is a massive loss, it's a shame that Wrench is injured, let's hope the rest of the pack can step up.
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Woh……hang on a cotton picking second here. Cooper not playing? Holy sheet! Seriously? We now have NO good props in the 17. Double jeepers….'"
Jeepers? I think this needs upgrading to Jinkies!
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Would have liked an additional prop on the bench, with Butler coming into the squad to replace Cooper, but it looks like Thewlis will play fullback while Ratchford moves to hooker to give Walker a rest.'"
Cannot disagree on both points, but would we lose an interchange for bringing in another player, not named in the squad?
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| Quote ="fez1"Sorry - have I missed something?
When did the 'Cooper' issue arise?
Now I dont spend hours on here, but Ive never seen a post from Paul2812 before even though allegedly hes made over 2000. Maybe on the Cas board?
I'll believe it either when I see it or when a poster I recognise confirms it.'"
Fair play Paul2812.
I'll keep an eye out for your posts in future !!
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| Presumably Cooper and Clark have to fight their way back into this team, no?
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