I was updating the score.

I don`t feel comfortable and was the first poster on here to express my thoughts that we could be in a relegation battle, several months ago.

No - don't think there's much chance at all

Resounding yes. Don't at all understand this notion of let's give him til easter. Everything has got worse under him, EVERYTHING. I wish I could be that useless and still be in a job

Buenas tardes. The Easter thing (I think) is about giving him some time with a credible pack of forwards after a preseason.

What did he do in this pre season?

I agree with your sentiment but catalans was beyond us as well, I know they weren't full strength but neither were Hull KR.

Fingers crossed dufty makes a difference and offers us a threat. We still won't have any organisation or kicking game mind you.

Happy and hope to be proven wrong but he's not had a positive impact on the club at all. I don't like his arrogance and don't like continued implication it's everyone else's fault. I don't like how he's handled some of the players. Maybe next season will be better (it couldnt really be worse), but so far there's nothing at all to even suggest it might be. I think a decent coach would be getting much more out of this group of players and I don't buy in to an of this bad apple nonsense.

To be fair we did play well BUT against a poor Catalans side that got the same treatment against Salford the following week. I think the best we can hope for is a proper dig some pride in the shirt with a hard fought St Helens type defeat to give us and the players some hope

There's absolutely no chance of you getting relegated. Toulouse and Wakefield are capable of catching you, but it's a nigh on impossibility that both will win enough games to relegate you. You'll still win 2 or 3 games at least and there's no way both Toulouse and Wakefield will win 5 each.

Not sure you were the first...correct me if I am wrong but you were supporting Powell last week. Unless of course you were supporting him to carry on as coach next year even if we were relegated.
Any way, I think and hope we will escape relegation, but his tenure has been shambolic, he is out of his depth and to be kind to him it would be a relief if the board put him out of his difficulties and asked him to resign.

Sad bell has spoken, it is so.

Who are “the board”, I’ve heard “the board” mentioned loads these last few months. Please tell me KissKam is not on “the board”.

And that is what it has come to.
Summarised by Sad one, our great achievement and ambition this year is to not be relegated.
Let's give Powell another year, we've got a number of older forwards coming from south of the equator to turn us into Champions next year. ...
Jeez....what have we become?

Quote ="DallasMead2"Who are “the board”, I’ve heard “the board” mentioned loads these last few months. Please tell me KissKam is not on “the board”.'" The board of directors. KF is a companies house director too. Read it and weep. https://warringtonwolves.com/our-club/c ... -directory

Quote ="DallasMead2"Who are “the board”, I’ve heard “the board” mentioned loads these last few months. Please tell me KissKam is not on “the board”.'" The board of directors. KF is a companies house director too. Read it and weep. https://warringtonwolves.com/our-club/c ... -directory

I shouldn't bite, but if we can't beat a busted hkr side at home, then where are these 2(or 3!!

)wins coming from?

Knowing our lot they will do just enough to survive after Powell is sacked.

NO. But I am sitting nervously.

YES. I’ll say that on here, but not in person, as I don’t want to get beaten up… The fact is (as Sally pointed out on another thread) that Powell transformed Featherstone and Castleford, and had a big hand in setting Leeds up for a period of success. This was no accident.

I think the problem with Warrington is partly down to humility. We have had a culture of players who earn big bucks but get comfortable. They’re generally past stars who have nothing to prove and although they perform to a high standard generally (down to sheer talent) they don’t have that drive to excel anymore. There’s no incentive. Now Powell has come and turned this comfortable culture upside down. He won’t let the players choose to sit next to their mates at lunch, he won’t let them set their working hours on their terms, and he’s analysing their weaknesses with such attention to detail that they’re offended by any criticism. Added to this he’s changed the style of play, the calls, and he’s told them they’ve got to [iearn[/i a new contract if they want to stay.

Now, we can argue whether he’s gone about this in the right way, and whether he didn’t foresee the anxiety and the loss of confidence that this upheaval would create. However, this time last year we were begging for someone to come in and turn things upside down and overhaul the squad whilst bringing through young talent. And Powell certainly has a history for that. I think this also a learning curve for him though, as previously he’s been dealing with a bunch of fresh, humble and mostly young players who are easy to mould, rather than a comfortable, set-in-their-ways family of past masters who have found a cushy retirement gig to top up the pension.

I’m all in til easter ‘23 and live in hope.

No - but it's gonna be close
Yes - But with the squad we have next year, if we're in the same situation after around 10-12 games i think he'll be shown the door. But i think we're gonna be THE team to beat next year. On form we're gonna have a dominant forward pack, with a S-H-i-t load of skill and speed to burn. VERY VERY excited for 2023.

You up late? Or did you wake early? Thought I’d be the only one around at 4am on a Sunday.

2/14 = 14% think we'll be relegated

7/14 = 50% for Powell to stay. (Spanish Wire said yes but I think he meant no going by his comments. It's just over half if Spanish Wire did mean yes.

(I think that's all correct up until now)

Very interesting, a lot more backers of Powell still than I thought.

You can also argue that if the players who can't or won't deliver must be removed, that the person responsible for the terrible season this club has suffered should also be removed. You say that perhaps this is part of a learning curve for Powell, well the club has paid too much to extend his education. I'm not even sure Powell thinks he has done anything wrong. Can we afford to gamble having this guy around any longer, if we leave it until Easter next year any decent coaches will be employed elsewhere, now is the time. The board were bold bringing him in, they should be bolder by saying goodbye.

You ever heard that phrase, you can't get rid of all the players, easier to get rid of the manager?


Well this year, you're seeing the opposite, the manager can't get rid of a lot of the players, that's partially what's making ppl uncomfortable, we're just not used to this.

I didnt want Powell in the first place, but I don't think we're gonna get relegated (refs will help us at some point) so I'm sticking with him in the rebuild

What have the Powell supporters seen this season that convinces them that he's the man for the job? All he has done so far is get rid of a load of players which anyone could've done. The rugby has been nothing short of atrocious and all I hear from Powell is excuses. If he picks his 3 ex Cas mates next week then he's lost the plot and should be immediately fired on the pitch after another drubbing at Huddersfield.

But but but….overhaul!! I’ll tell you what Powell overhaul that ruddy second row, realise Ratchford is back up at best and I might believe you know what you’re doing.

Sorry, Mr Fitzpatrick.

This.

As always from you, a very perspicacious post.