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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Without wanting to wish him harm, losing Hill may be the best thing to happen to us .'"
no, it would undoubtedly be the worst thing to happen to us.
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| Yes and that's what I mean. Can you not understand that?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Yes and that's what I mean. Can you not understand that?'"
no one really understands you RD.... i don't even think you do half the time.
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| but for the sake of this discussion, i would like to think the management and the fans of our club already know the issues.
having our best player injured wont highlight any issues to anyone... it will just deprive our club of its best player.
can you not understand that?
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| He has played a lot of minutes and games over the last couple of years.
We were able to rest players at one time but poor form has meant that we have had to ask a lot more from him.
It's a bit like Roby at Saints. He never deserves to be on the losing side.
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| His stats for this season are amazing, same as last season. 4th top metres gained (3131) and 4th top tackler (810), with only 7 errors in all those minutes he's been putting in. I'm sure some of our players have made more than that in a single game this year!
Yet apparently he's not being considered for Man of Steel. I'm not saying I think he should win it, but to have better stats than most of the favourites and not even be worthy of odds? He was a favourite last year and his stats are better now!
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"but for the sake of this discussion, i would like to think the management and the fans of our club already know the issues.
having our best player injured wont highlight any issues to anyone... it will just deprive our club of its best player.
can you not understand that?'"
So you understood what I meant. Why didn't you just say that if in first place instead of trying to score brownie points against me off your fellow backslappers.
Perhaps it's too obvious that Hill is carrying the pack, I was agreeing with you and you still attack my every post. I don't even think you actually read many of them before you cut them down.
Although it doesn't concern me, I find it amusing.
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| so you agree that losing Hill wouldn't be the best thing to happen to us then?
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| Every thread should be renamed Rubber Duckie vs ....
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Every thread should be renamed Rubber Duckie vs ....
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i dont even know why i bothered.... the forum has become un-readable because of it.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i dont even know why i bothered.... the forum has become un-readable because of it.
im off'"
I was just thinking the same thing. Used to enjoy coming on here just to get read other people's views and the occasional scoop, but since our season went breasts up it's become a right bitch fest!
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| How could anyone think we need to lose Hill in order to appreciate how important he is? Just about every thread highlights his importance. Or has your estimation of TS fallen so low that you REALLY think he hasn't noticed?
This isn't getting at you (RD) these are genuine questions to ascertain your reasoning process
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| I think his reasoning, and I agree, is that it will make it (even more) painfully obvious how lacking we are up front if Hill took a spell on the sidelines. That the silver lining to an injury for him might be that it forces management to fix the problem instead of just throwing Chris Hill at it.
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| Quote ="Wire"I think his reasoning, and I agree, is that it will make it (even more) painfully obvious how lacking we are up front if Hill took a spell on the sidelines. That the silver lining to an injury for him might be that it forces management to fix the problem instead of just throwing Chris Hill at it.'"
Well why can he not word it like that rather than get up people's noses.
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| it appears that there are far too many touchy souls at the minute, maybe its due to the poor end of season and nerves are frayed everywhere!
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| Quote ="Wire"I think his reasoning, and I agree, is that it will make it (even more) painfully obvious how lacking we are up front if Hill took a spell on the sidelines. That the silver lining to an injury for him might be that it forces management to fix the problem instead of just throwing Chris Hill at it.'"
How can you think the management don't know the strengths and weaknesses of the team? Do you seriously believe supporters have more insight than they do?
The difficulties of building a team on a budget should be obvious, even more so if you've tried selecting a fantasy team in any sport.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"How can you think the management don't know the strengths and weaknesses of the team? Do you seriously believe supporters have more insight than they do?
The difficulties of building a team on a budget should be obvious, even more so if you've tried selecting a fantasy team in any sport.'"
You're responding to something I didn't say and ignoring that I said, explicitly, that losing Hill would make it [ieven more[/i painfully obvious; acknowledging that the club are probably already painfully aware. I didn't suggest that the club didn't know the team's strengths and weaknesses. I would say they are well aware of the strengths given how much work Hill is going through.
Right now nobody on here has any idea whether there would be a jump to action if Hill suddenly hit the sidelines. This is just conjecture.
(Not sure I'd liken building a real world team of players to selecting names with prices attached to them, though )
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| This forum is becoming as bad as our season isn't it! The only thing I care about this week is beating the Pies. That will see me through to next February.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Well why can he not word it like that rather than get up people's noses.'"
That is exactly what I said but when someone else says it, it's okay.
Good grief.
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| Quote ="Wire"You're responding to something I didn't say and ignoring that I said, explicitly, that losing Hill would make it [ieven more[/i painfully obvious; acknowledging that the club are probably already painfully aware. I didn't suggest that the club didn't know the team's strengths and weaknesses. I would say they are well aware of the strengths given how much work Hill is going through.
Right now nobody on here has any idea whether there would be a jump to action if Hill suddenly hit the sidelines. This is just conjecture.
(Not sure I'd liken building a real world team of players to selecting names with prices attached to them, though
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Ok, so Hill gets injured and what? The salary cap no longer applies? A world class prop becomes available for buttons, not in the "real world".
Or how about signing a lower league prop and hope he is a "Hill" and not an England (although I think England is still a work in progress).
Can't we agree that there is NO upside to Hill being injured?!
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Ok, so Hill gets injured and what? The salary cap no longer applies? A world class prop becomes available for buttons, not in the "real world".
Or how about signing a lower league prop and hope he is a "Hill" and not an England (although I think England is still a work in progress).
Can't we agree that there is NO upside to Hill being injured?!'"
Wire and myself wasn't portraying an upside to the loss of Hill, but to highlight the importance of him if it occurred.
Can you not see that?
If there is a crack to fill, making a whole out of it is usually the best option. That reminds me I have some plastering to do before she gets home.
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| Everybody knows that hitting your thumb with a hammer is going to hurt. You don't need hit it to confirm it.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wire and myself wasn't portraying an upside to the loss of Hill, but to highlight the importance of him if it occurred.
Can you not see that?
If there is a crack to fill, making a whole out of it is usually the best option. That reminds me I have some plastering to do before she gets home.'"
I can see that your argument has no merit. Try telling Saints that they would be better off with Roby injured as it will emphasise how important he is to their team.
As for your Confucian philososophy....it's cracked.
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| I understand what he's saying but it's also a totally backwards approach.
If Chris Hill doesn't play, then we'd all find out what we always knew all along. That Chris Hill carries this current set of forwards.
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| Well let's hope it doesn't happen then. Especially why we now have a no pressure grudge match with the old enemy. Shaat loads of biff please. I hope to see at leased one of our guys get 10 mins for retaliation big style.
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