Shame but nothing to worry about really. We weren't going to catch Saints in the table and our misses tonight will cause St's more trouble next time (if we play them) than Lomax will do to us. The bounce of a ball and a try against the run of play beat us tonight. Nothing there to make me fear them in knock out football.

Something really needs to be done about Bentley though. He has no interest in playing the game and just wants to talk crap and cause injuries. He reminds me of playing for Rylands just under 20 years ago, every game would devolve into a fight due to one player on our side in particular just wanting things to kick off. He's like Connor turned up 10 notches except Connor actually has skill to contribute to the game. He is a grub of the tallest order and seeing Philbin knock the twunt on his was a highlight.

Yeah agreed. Lucky tries really.

I feel we got it wrong going for the 2 when we were 8 behind. Really dissapointed with the referee performance of Moore. I think he made some baffling decisions that all went in saints favour. The ruck officiating was appalling.

They won't miss Bentley he is nothing but a grub.

Call Bentley what you want, we let him play that game and get to us. Neither Currie nor Hughes are ever going to "deal with him"

You forgot LMS, and that pooh house who was full back for Hudds (amongst others) about 15 years ago

True.
We lack a Ben Westwood type, who can deal with such "situations"

I think you'll find the referee lets him play that game. If anybody reacts to it, they'll be binned, which is what he wants. Silly take. He has nothing in attack and only defends 3rd man in with his fist balled. I'll stick with a one Currie over a million Bentleys.

Poor second half but without Mamo’s ball steal + Lineham’s brain fart could have gone our way but can’t fault the effort but thought we missed Cooper.

Can blame Bentley the ref till the cows come home truth is certain pp layers let us down i.e lineham for his daft play glad he's going was never a fan..was widdop playing tonight.oly seen him at the end when he got carded another one that can go...and get some tissues for wilkin in commentary box the way he's describing Percival try

Haha one loss and this clown wants Widdop gone. You been on the bevvys mate? Dial it back.

Saints were missing both halfbacks and had to put a 19 and 20 year old there and still beat us with absolute ease.

The scoreboard totally flattered us.

We are a million miles away from winning a super league title and are only where we are in the league because the rest of the league is so poor

We can regroup for our next game. They have to go home to St Helens. There’s always a silver lining.....

Give it a rest Steph you're embarrassing yourself and your mum who you're living with.

Saints deserved to win....but remind me whose cup final it is? We'll have em in a game that truly matters AGAIN.

And yet before tonight St Helens had only won one more game than us. We were missing Austin, Cooper, Charnley (who's metres coming away from the line should not be ignored) and were done by the bounce of a ball and a break away against the run of play. Saints are nothing to fear.

Struggled to cope with the ruck speed. The played fast with the ball and pedestrian without it, but we let them. When we could generate some ruck speed we looked dangerous, but they controlled it well.

The notable tactic to run on the last is a strange one, caught out a couple of times for turnovers and it didn’t really offer much of a threat. Think we may have been better raining down on Coote all night, dull as it may be to watch.

Missed Cooper’s offloads too.

All told, not quite good enough. Take the first choice halfbacks from a team and you should beat them. More to come though, just need to find a way out of the slow grind, I think going wide early is our best chance of that. There was a few occasions where Widdop and Currie looked dangerous.

Likely face off with Mr Powell in play off week 1…

Thats my opinion less of the insults..try growing up..

You want Widdop gone. Yes, it's an opinion but a ludicrous one nonetheless. Less of the insults he says as he lays into the players haha.

A 19 and 20 year old outplayed our 2 marquee half backs with absolute ease.

I love our fans. Every year “the top team are nothing to fear.
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We say it every year to try and make ourselves feel better because we are so woefully behind the big teams. As is evident by the amount of times we have won superleague. If it makes you feel better saying saints are nothing to fear because you feel inadequate that’s fine, but if you really think our team is good enough to win SL I don’t know what to say.

Bit early to call it yet. We will probably finish 3rd but 6th could be any one of four teams, possibly five as it's possible Wigan may not win another this year.

You'd think Dodd and Welsby were Lockyer and Johns if you believed Bill Arthur

We spent half the game in our own 30 because of their line speed and spoiling. Not hard to play well when they start sets in our half and that is down to forwards before all else. Williams and Widdop were very good. And I'm done fearing Saints, that stopped a good few years ago when I realised they haven't beat us in a knockout game since 2010 or something silly. Our problem is falling to teams who we would handily beat if we didn't decide to implode against the likes of Cas and Huddersfield.

Fair Enough your entitled to your opinion..if lineham makes you happy and widdops disappearance fills you full of joy then fill your boots full to top..back to you clown

I never said Lineham makes me happy (although he has done more than enough generally to earn some respect that you seem to lack for him), and Widdop did not go missing, you would do well to watch it again if you believe that tripe.

Are you actuary transitioning to a wire steph? It would be like the world's ugliest caterpillar slowly turning into a butterfly, or are you just bipolar? Maybe you're a bit like Gollum? The gene pool can be cruel in that part of the world after all.

If by a remote possibility it's the former then please adapt to socially acceptable behavioural traits rather than carrying on with the old steph or you'll be having to reinvent yourself again before you know it.

Saints are the best side in the league when it comes to-

Line speed

General defence

Kick chase

Support play

Play acting

Playing the ref

Winding the opposition up

A tough side to beat when it’s all combined.

Ok, tonight we got beat and it was painful,, but spare a thought for those poor people in the West Stsnd.....tomorrow when they wake up, theyll still be in St Helens.