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| And hope Bullock is back for the Saints game at least.
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| 4 forwards out and 1 gone home. I know we will learn more on Wednesday what squad we have but would you start one of the youngsters alongside Vaughan.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Sooooo who starts with Vaughan now, can’t see it being Kasiano.'"
I'd say McGuire with Mata'utia starting at 13 (assuming no other missing bodies due to injury)
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"I'd say McGuire with Mata'utia starting at 13 (assuming no other missing bodies due to injury)'"
Good call, can see that happening.
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| Cooper out for 12 months they are saying.
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| Isn't Cooper only contracted until the end of this year?
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| Quote ="easyWire"Isn't Cooper only contracted until the end of this year?'"
With an option (I presume Wigan's) for a further 12 months. Most likely played his last game for them.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"With an option (I presume Wigan's) for a further 12 months. Most likely played his last game for them.'"
Thanks.
I still fancy Wigan to put one over on us with their remaining forwards. Maybe we have a plan to beat them out wide.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"With an option (I presume Wigan's) for a further 12 months. Most likely played his last game for them.'"
Regardless of what went on here with his move to Wigan I would not ever wish an injury like that on anyone tbh, if it is that he is out for 12 months he may never face us again.
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| I still see Cooper as a Wire in a Wigan shirt.
At 35 in Oct, and a year long injury (if the story is correct), he has effectively been retired by Knowles.
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| It’s been said Dufty as a broken thumb, hope that’s not true.
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| Quote ="karetaker"It’s been said Dufty as a broken thumb, hope that’s not true.'"
I’m hoping with his celebrations with the fans at the end clenched fists and all plus no strapping this is false. We’re doing it tough as it is, this is the last thing we need.
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| Quote ="DizzyHeights"I’m hoping with his celebrations with the fans at the end clenched fists and all plus no strapping this is false. We’re doing it tough as it is, this is the last thing we need.'"
Unless it was something he did with his thumb post-game of course.
I’m not sure what that might be, and I’m not trying to start any rumours!
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| So Mata’utia to loose and Minikin straight in to centre, then there is the question of the 2 players that Powell said may need scans. I suspected Ratchford for one of them since he didn’t take that last kick.
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| I think you're right karetaker, we could really do with bullock, Harrison, clark and wrench coming back to fitness. I think it will be Vaughan, mcguire, kasiano and Thomas in the forwards this week with another young forward on the bench, i think we will need a 2nd row cover as well personally, so maybe holroyd this week.
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| End of day clubs get injuries hopefully you get them all out the way early on in a season and have full availability at the businesses end.
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| Beat Wigan and Saints and Warrington have practically won the LLS and almost guaranteed top 2.
I cannot possibly see how any team could effectively win 4 more games than Wire.
Other than Catalans who at this time would need to win 3 more than Wire.
I cannot see any games ahead where Wire look a certain to get beaten.
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| The really big test will be the three games at the end of the season against top opposition.
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| At this rate the big test will be getting 17 players on the pitch.
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| Regardless of what teams are out there I think this will still be a great game.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"At this rate the big test will be getting 17 players on the pitch.'"
Hopefully you pick up a few suspensions against Wigan, or your game against us will be very entertaining for you lot.
Walmsley, Sironen, Batchelor, Matautia, Paasi, Knowles missing against Hull KR this week. They're going to put 40 on us. If we're not careful, we're going to end up having the season you had last year
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hopefully you pick up a few suspensions against Wigan, or your game against us will be very entertaining for you lot.
Walmsley, Sironen, Batchelor, Matautia, Paasi, Knowles missing against Hull KR this week. They're going to put 40 on us. If we're not careful, we're going to end up having the season you had last year
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It is nowhere near that bad for saints, we won't be at full strength for Wigan this week or saints next week. I don't think you were too far off against Wigan, makinson wasn't moving right for one of their tries or when he was bundled in to touch, he scores those for fun usually. On another day the knock on over the line doesn't happen and its scored, you never know that could have been a pivotal moment which swung the game your way. I'd put your good Friday loss down to fine margins personally.
I'm hoping that we don't pick up suspensions and neither do you lot. Both teams are missing enough as it is and it's usually one of the best games of the season, I'm hoping it will be next week as well. We will worry about you lot after Friday, for now we are in Wigan week, with another one of the seasons better games to look forward to. Come back when you're back to your usualy chirpy best after you've had your backsides paddled by Hull KR.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hopefully you pick up a few suspensions against Wigan, or your game against us will be very entertaining for you lot.
Walmsley, Sironen, Batchelor, Matautia, Paasi, Knowles missing against Hull KR this week. They're going to put 40 on us. If we're not careful, we're going to end up having the season you had last year
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Makeale (until replaced) Dudson Philbin Harrison Bullock Wrench (possibly Clark) 6-7 out.
On the red vee you said they were all back up and wouldn’t make your starting 13.
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| They're not your best players are they. If you were going to miss five players, it'd arguably include most of those. Clark is back this week, so not sure why you're listing him.
Dudson, Philbin and Harrison weakens your bench, Bullock wouldn't play anyway if you were fully fit.
You'd probably beat us anyway the way you're playing, but if Walmsley, Paasi, Sironen, Mata'utia, Batchelor and Knowles out you'll win by plenty. I think we might be waiting a month or more for our next win.
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| Harrison was one of our best performers early this season even playing through injury. He'd be in the 17 for sure, so would bullock and probably philbin, but probably on the bench for those 2. Mikaele on this seasons showing would easily be in the 17 as well. Clark I doubt will be fit to play this week but I hope I'm wrong. Wrench would get plenty of games as well, possibly starting centre or wing depending on injuries at the time.
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