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| Quote ="Wire Yed"He's a bum, he's one of those pupils that teachers always hate, the one in which they see so much potential but the kid just cba and prefers to mess about.
He needs 1 of 3 things, a serious kick up the backside, a professional shrink or showing the door regardless of cost.
I wanted to blame the scouts but the thing is everyone can see the potential, including, Smith/Agar, the board, everyone sees it except Mr T Lineham'"
He must have had a big kick up the (Rochdale & Reserves), he's tried to shrink, the door is looking likely
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"He's a bum, he's one of those pupils that teachers always hate, the one in which they see so much potential but the kid just cba and prefers to mess about.
He needs 1 of 3 things, a serious kick up the backside, a professional shrink or showing the door regardless of cost.
I wanted to blame the scouts but the thing is everyone can see the potential, including, Smith/Agar, the board, everyone sees it except Mr T Lineham'"
Yed where do you see the potential in a lazy, overweight, poor ball handling, defensively poor, Unathletic average paced, repeatedly dropped and loaned out nice but dim winger....??
give me something to go on....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Yed where do you see the potential in a lazy, overweight, poor ball handling, defensively poor, Unathletic average paced, repeatedly dropped and loaned out nice but dim winger....??
give me something to go on....'"
i see no potential in him at all.. absolutely nothing..... Yet i see people saying rubbish like 'he has the potential to be a great winger'.. no he doesn't... i dont see ONE decent attribute in him...
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Yed where do you see the potential in a lazy, overweight, poor ball handling, defensively poor, Unathletic average paced, repeatedly dropped and loaned out nice but dim winger....??
give me something to go on....'"
Sorry Biscuit i can't, i saw it, i don't anymore....he's a bum, cut their loses and get rid would be my advice.
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| Lineham isnt just potential, weve seen him play very well for hull, powerfull and quick just not shown it for us, although to be fair he has scored some decent short ranged tries. Also worth noting that evans doesnt give great service to his winger. Seems obvious to me that ratchford Should play centre with Russell at fullback where he is far more effective.
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| Quote ="gary numan"Lineham isnt just potential, weve seen him play very well for hull, powerfull and quick just not shown it for us, although to be fair he has scored some decent short ranged tries. Also worth noting that evans doesnt give great service to his winger. Seems obvious to me that ratchford Should play centre with Russell at fullback where he is far more effective.'"
Problem is, replacing his centre, won't fix or address all the other deficiencies in his game
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Problem is, replacing his centre, won't fix or address all the other deficiencies in his game'"
A decent centre can make or break a winger, don't get me wrong, i am disappointed in lineham, really rated him and thought it was a great signing and he has failed to perform but i do think that evans is a great defencive centre but a poor winger's centre, i also think that ratchford can dp a job in any back position whereas russell looks like its fullback or nothing.
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| Agreed Gary.
Our coaching staff don't seem to know what a great centre feeding winger is.
Atkins and Evans know where the line is but neither can pass or hold a line taking in defender's and having the strength to put a winger through.
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| Quote ="gary numan"Lineham isnt just potential, weve seen him play very well for hull, powerfull and quick just not shown it for us, although to be fair he has scored some decent short ranged tries. Also worth noting that evans doesnt give great service to his winger. Seems obvious to me that ratchford Should play centre with Russell at fullback where he is far more effective.'"
I've said this many times. REvans provides very little in terms of spacing or passing, and Ratchford is a cracking centre for me.
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| You're looking at an area that doesn't necessarily need fixing.
Again, he was scoring in the first third of the season, he can finish when given the opportunity, I don't have a problem with that, it's the other 75 percent of his game which he's got his problem with.
You could make a mutant version of Paul newlove, mark gasnier, Matt gidley and gene miles. It ain't gonna make him run a ball back any harder, or turn quicker and make his decision better on chasing kicks
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"You're looking at an area that doesn't necessarily need fixing.
Again, he was scoring in the first third of the season, he can finish when given the opportunity, I don't have a problem with that, it's the other 75 percent of his game which he's got his problem with.
You could make a mutant version of Paul newlove, mark gasnier, Matt gidley and gene miles. It ain't gonna make him run a ball back any harder, or turn quicker and make his decision better on chasing kicks'"
Good point
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| [list=[/list Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"You're looking at an area that doesn't necessarily need fixing.
Again, he was scoring in the first third of the season, he can finish when given the opportunity, I don't have a problem with that, it's the other 75 percent of his game which he's got his problem with.
You could make a mutant version of Paul newlove, mark gasnier, Matt gidley and gene miles. It ain't gonna make him run a ball back any harder, or turn quicker and make his decision better on chasing kicks'"
Well i agree somewhat, like i said earlier I'm disappointed in lineham so far but not going to write him off yet as ive seen he can do 'it', i did widen out the discussion because his centre is an important factor in his overall game. Luckily there is an alternative imo that ratchford can play in that position instead and russell is very good at returning the ball yet seems very ineffective on the wing. Seems like logic to me.
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| Quote ="gary numan"[list=[/listWell i agree somewhat, like i said earlier I'm disappointed in lineham so far but not going to write him off yet as ive seen he can do 'it', i did widen out the discussion because his centre is an important factor in his overall game. Luckily there is an alternative imo that ratchford can play in that position instead and russell is very good at returning the ball yet seems very ineffective on the wing. Seems like logic to me.'"
I've always liked Ratchford at centre, but the problem we have is Russell is completely shot under the high ball. All well and good he is good at running it back but he as to catch it first, as it is right now Ratchford as to stay fullback.
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| Quote ="karetaker"I've always liked Ratchford at centre, but the problem we have is Russell is completely shot under the high ball. All well and good he is good at running it back but he as to catch it first, as it is right now Ratchford as to stay fullback.'"
Absolutely 100% this you can't fault his effort but Russell under that high ball will get picked out every time he's not even immune to it at winger either against teams with a proper offensive kicking game
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| The saying goes...
A big good un always beats a small good un!
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| Well we'll get Lineham in a boxing ring with Chris Riley, he'll still be a poop winger
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| ....his career does seem to be on the ropes!
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