I hope I didn’t cause anything worse than a coffee sinus wash*


*Not a euphemism either!

Firstly no we are not and secondly who are you to talk about sensitivity. Any comment made or here you don’t like you attack the poster. Just me and Wires71 won’t let you get away with it.

Starting to feel I’m going around in circles here but if you came on and gave an opposing opinion to any post you disagreed with then fine but you don’t. And it’s obvious you don’t like it when we have a go back at you. YOU are the only poster we have this with. God help when the season starts again and we critique any players, maybe you should go lay down in a dark room for awhile.

We are the same in that we will always call out your continual attempts at supressing opinions you don't like.

This is the Warrington Wolves RL Fans forum - of course everyone is going to express personal opinions on player abilities and contract extensions (livelihoods if you will).

Criticise my views as much as you like - play the ball and not the man. But, in my opinion, the position of "don't post negatives as his mum may be reading" (yes you did urge this) is indefensible.

I just don't get this entitlement of yours (perhaps you are a millennial or Gen Z?) which gives you the impression you have the right to tell people what they can and cannot post when you are triggered. We have an Acceptable Use Policy for that which is set by the admins - not me, not Karetaker, and not you.

He was accusing Karetaker of deliberately spreading fake news. That's not a query, it's an accusation. Karetaker was just passing on what he heard, he never vouched for it. It's offered "as is" as a rumour and these boards are full of them.

I didn't see the agitator jumping down the throat of the author of the "Vaughan to Leigh" rumour or any of the others we get. It's a personal vendetta with him/her/them.

Sorry missed that one about Vaughan to Leigh or the Williams to Swinton one.

Selective viewing

The "Williams to Swinton" one is just a rumour. So it's up to you and your mate whether you pass it on or not ... apparently it's all the rage.

This is the original quote. I asked whether the source was someone who knew SB well so that I could judge whether I should take it seriously or not.
It is obviously up to karetaker what he posts, but it also legitimate to ask questions like this. A simple “yes” or “no” would give context. I genuinely don’t understand the reluctance to answer, or maybe i should treat the non answer as an answer?

Apparently Leigh are supposed to be wanting a back not a forward.

Makes no sense at all as it's not a rebuild year at all, 3 players coming in to a squad that will barely change isn't a rebuild year. And there's absolutely no way Burgess would say he's not expecting much next year, he's not that kind of person and will be pushing to win.

Wrench if he picks up a few more injuries i'd let go.

Whilst Tai isn't great as a skillful centre, he's still only 25 with his first year at the top level under his belt. The thing that will tell with him is if he can learn and add more to his attacking range. Or it could be his last year with Lindop Getting more game time to help him develop.

Musgrove so far has just been an ok squad filler, But Burgess thinks he's played really well for us so can see him getting a new contract.

Ratchford i think will only play a handful of games next year, to cover injuries or when resting players.

Crowther is great and covers the forward line, and will put 100% in wherever he plays, would be happy to extend his contract.

*** Also just as a side note having read the other comments, this isn't me having a go at you at all, or calling you a liar or anything. I'm happy to hear all rumours, gossip etc I'm just saying i find it hard to believe

I agree it doesn't sound like a Burgess thing to say but there has been quite a turnover in playing roster from the 2023 squad.

Out
Drinkwater
Nicholson
Bullock
Kasiano
Dudson
Dwyer
Russell
Bruines


In
Yates*
Taylor-Wray
Wood
Leyland
Johnson
Russell
Okoro

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... m-burgess/

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... m-burgess/

Yeah but you can easily discount 3 of them straight away as they never played a game for us, Russell played about 2 games and Bullock played about 6 as did Dudson i think. So 6 out of the 8 barely made any impact and aren't really a loss.
Only Nicholson, Drinkwater and Bateman you could actually class as a loss.
So i still don't class it as a rebuild year


I'm looking forward to Okoro getting on the field as he is a big lad and could potentially make an impact. Thomas looked really good in pre-season before his injury so hoping he can get some game time.
I keep forgetting about Lucas Green as well, he looked pretty good the few times i've seen him play, and a lot of game time at Bradford will have done him good.
I was thinking with the size of Dan Russell he might be used as a prop at some point, unless he is great after pre-season and can take Currie or Fitzs spot he seems a bit of a wasted signing. Will wait and see how he's used.

Russell and Dudson - 1 game each.
Bullock - 10 games

Yates is better than Bullock and Dudson combined, but we're still missing a big, impact, prop (which should be Musgrove's role).

Fitzgibbon is clearly a risk due to his shoulder (he managed 17 games last season, 2 of which he came off injured). Whilst Dan Russell's signing hasn't set pulses racing, clearly there's been some thought as to backup options.

Both Hayes and Leyland have potential but also risk vs. Drinkwater's 'what you see is what you get'.

I think Hayes has already shown he is at least as good as Drinkwater with the ball and on the boot and - despite his size - better defensively.

Agreed Fitz is a risk, really hope he comes good.

Still think we need a back rower and an impact prop to challenge Wigan, but the squad is good enough for a similar year to last at least, I’m my view.

Yes I would agree. Unlikely to be a SL title winning squad but we should be competitive and enjoyable to watch. Sam will have his work cut out if he wants to win the big one in his remaining time with us.

I generally agree with comments made and think that whilst we might not have gone backwards as such, we look like a squad that is going to be reliant on people maintaining form with youth/fringe players pushing on just to stand still.

Have I missed something, but wasn't there supposed to be a WOW signing that got us all excited before the cold grip of winter reality set in?

Agreed, and as the only reliable source is Abe, and he is currently AWOL, i’ve decided to accept our business is done. The using of a quota spot on Russell still baffles me but hopefully there is method in the madness.

What's the outlook for Nolan Tupea? Is he coming in with a similar pedigree to Lindop & CTW? Could he make an impact next year?

That was Abe I believe and was not till after the event he revealed we had spoken to Cleary. Think that’s what it was.

Now that type of signing would have me buying a season ticket! This also makes me think we have more cap space available than previously advised.

They were talking about Cleary before we signed Rusell, we're full up with Quata spots now.

Yes I realise that. Just that Cleary would have cost a lot of money so we must have had significant cap space to even entertain the thought of signing him.

Quota yes, cap space no

Ahhhh righty yeah i get you