It's not potential but talent Wheeler undoubtedly possess, but it comes incased in a body of injury or malingering.

England has not turned out to be another Hilly despite the physique. It was a gamble worthy of a go but good luck to him at Wakey should that be his next move. Wonder if any brotherly love might get us some Wakey hot prospect in return?

Swap Brian for Tony you mean?

Good one Duckie, but I am not sure Brian would appreciate being referred to as a 'hot prospect' with his achievements in the game.

How often has he shown this talent...and more pertinently how often when it counts?

he hasn't shown it once in his year with us.

get rid

We had more potential in Matty Blythe & we got rid of him.

Blythe has played consistently well for Bradford, when watching the mid 8's I've been impressed with Saltonstall and others released by the club, as others have mentioned next seasons U23's may be the answer to holding onto more of the younger players while developing them further.

I didn't say he had potential.?

But you did say he had talent so back to my question, when has he shown it when it counted for something?

If you can spot a hot shot at Wakefield please tell us who it is.



Tom Johnstone is the only player on our books who fits that description but to be honest you have the backs pretty well covered and he's not quite ready yet though I'm pretty certain he will eventually make it all the way.

I'd assumed he was off to Wigan considering how much Phil Clarke creams over him.

That was a bit OTT I thought too, think he was speaking along these lines a few years back about Richard Owen......

AAAAAAAAND he's gone,

Good luck at your next club etc.... He may have been built like a grizzly bear, but unfortunately he played like a teddy bear.

Unbelievably slow at the ptb, and not always the best handler of a ball. I now await the announcement that Gary Wheeler's contract will not be renewed.

Englands departure should be good news as presumably we would not have let him go if we didn't have another prop lined up.

So any more teddy bears you want to get rid of?

Giants fans weren't that full of praise for Mullally when he came to us but he has been outstanding and will be great for Leeds imho. Wonder whether a new club will do England good.


Thought Rhys Evans was the next big thing but he doesn't seem to be in with much of a shout these days. Can we have him too?

Daniel Murray who is moving from the U19s to the U23s may have a chance of staking a claim for the senior squad as prop cover.

You can for me. Just don't see the fascination with Rhys.

We need to sign another prop or we will √0 again in 2016.

so props for next year are
hill
sims
dodds
Harrison
evans
king
julien
and possibly murray.

king is more of a backrower, harrison has that op ? over him.

Its still looking pretty thin

Julien has been playing centre although he can play prop. But yes, it is still looking thin - we need another out and out Troll.

I thought you said Murray didn't wan't to sign for us next year ?

Hill - he is what he is
Dodds - probably have those first year issues, hope he doesn't but he's unknown
Sims - for me not a prop more of a mobile Trent Waterhouse
Harrison - as mobile as an oil tanker, great defensively but injuries could play a part
Westwood - not sure a move up front would suit, but maybe a short term filler

These guys are young lads and learning their trade and not for weekly combat in SL
Evans
King
Julien
Philbin - as he matures he will be a prop
and possibly Murray.

Overall we are extremely light in the front row, therefore a prop is a must