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| 4pm, Monday 6th April, Luke Dorn interception try...
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Pretty much spot on.
Genuine question - When does the goodwill that Tony Smith has garnered through his great work during his early years, eventually run out?
We've been in steady decline since 2011 - Compare the first choice 17's from then and now. Only Chris Hill would make the 2011 team. Those players whose names make both line ups have gone downhill since then, our signings since that time have been mediocre, and the young players coming through, while decent enough, none are what you would call quality.
I'm not saying Smith should be sacked or anything, but if this decline continues, by the end of his contract in 2016, most of us will be quite happy to see the back of him.'"
Best fans in Super League? We gave Paul Cullen 6 years at the helm now some are questioning arguably our best manager since WWII after 3 bad results ?
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"No pal I haven't changed my tune, I never expected us to win anything this year. What I have changed is my confidence to stay in the eight that's all. That's probably knee jerk after two poor performances on the bounce.
but that said I'm taking your lead and am off to Tony Smiths House to shout obscenities at his front door maybe I can hurl some horse manure at his BMW when he drives past........ that should help....'"
You really hate it when anybodies opinion is different to yours.
By your opinion nobody but nobody can criticise Smith because of what he's done. We'll all be eternally grateful for that.
Well in the here and now this coach and this team are hurtling towards possible middle tier rugby, then facing a battle to stay in SuperLeague.
I'm sorry that you feel that a coach appears unable or unwilling to see what's happening in front of him is beyond reproach.
Bit banal childish jibes are hardly the actions of a lucid person are they?
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"You really hate it when anybodies opinion is different to yours.
By your opinion nobody but nobody can criticise Smith because of what he's done. We'll all be eternally grateful for that.
Well in the here and now this coach and this team are hurtling towards possible middle tier rugby, then facing a battle to stay in SuperLeague.
I'm sorry that you feel that a coach appears unable or unwilling to see what's happening in front of him is beyond reproach.
Bit banal childish jibes are hardly the actions of a lucid person are they?'"
Only you and rubber duckie pal. Only you two.....
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"You really hate it when anybodies opinion is different to yours.
By your opinion nobody but nobody can criticise Smith because of what he's done. We'll all be eternally grateful for that.
Well in the here and now this coach and this team are hurtling towards possible middle tier rugby, then facing a battle to stay in SuperLeague.
I'm sorry that you feel that a coach appears unable or unwilling to see what's happening in front of him is beyond reproach.
Bit banal childish jibes are hardly the actions of a lucid person are they?'"
On a serious note for me to agree with your point of view I would have to think
A)You can see half back problems and Tony Smith can't. .
You'll forgive me if I side with Tony Smith I don't know your rugby league background. .Please tell us....
B)I'd have to agree a 22 year old player fresh from his only other club is stealing a living.....
Your not on I'll agree he's out of form but stealing a living no way. ..
There are probably more about Agar but seriously how can anyone know what an assistant does. ...when poaching left people said all he did was put the cones out. ....
So come on talk sensible rugby and not tittle tattle and i might agree with you.
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| Your at it again.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Best fans in Super League? We gave Paul Cullen 6 years at the helm now some are questioning arguably our best manager since WWII after 3 bad results ?'"
So how long does Tony Smith's untouchable period last then?... I am genuinely interested to know.
Like I say, I don't want to see him sacked, or see any campaign to oust him, but I'm just curious how many years 3 challenge cups (last of which was 3 years ago) actually earns a man, before people can openly question his PRESENT performance without being shouted down as some sort of knee-jerk reactionary??
I was simply stating that if the obvious decline continues at the present rate, by the end of the 2016 season, people might have to eventually wake up and stop believing that Smith is some type of demi-God.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"On a serious note for me to agree with your point of view I would have to think
A)You can see half back problems and Tony Smith can't. .
You'll forgive me if I side with Tony Smith I don't know your rugby league background. .Please tell us....
B)I'd have to agree a 22 year old player fresh from his only other club is stealing a living.....
Your not on I'll agree he's out of form but stealing a living no way. ..
There are probably more about Agar but seriously how can anyone know what an assistant does. ...when poaching left people said all he did was put the cones out. ....
So come on talk sensible rugby and not tittle tattle and i might agree with you.'"
To be honest I'm not asking for you to agree not belittle a point of view.
A) the half back problems needed to be addressed and haven't. If he does see it, then why doesn't he do something about it. At present trying Dec Patton could not possibly do any worse than we're doing at present. Again and in my opinion Smith seems a lot more disinterested than ever. Perhaps he's planning his exit route, hence Agar appointment. But you have to agree something radical needs doing at half back.
B) Clark was fairly open on his first interview with the comment about hope to win things in the two years I'm here. I know news signed for 4, but that's what he said. Be is playing completely disinterested and is at present is just doing what any other hooker would do, ship it on.
Again in my opinion if something drastic is not done we're in big trouble
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| Willie poaching seems to be doing quite well at Hull Kr puttin the cones out, I must say!
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| Boys and girls have a bit of patience, I think things will improve when we go full time.
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| Just wait until we move into the new stadium !
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| Guys you are joint 4th. It's hardly a disaster.
Your on a losing streak one game longer than us.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Guys you are joint 4th. It's hardly a disaster.
Your on a losing streak one game longer than us.'"
Quite. The disaster is, the halfbacks Saints played today displayed a better kicking game than we have seen for a few weeks at Warrington.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Guys you are joint 4th. It's hardly a disaster.
Your on a losing streak one game longer than us.'" Freefall as we"re speaking especially if Salford win.7th if they do.
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| Quote ="runningman29"Freefall as we"re speaking especially if Salford win.7th if they do.'"
7th in table now even Wakefield at the bottom have scored more points than wire.
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| Just looked at the table. Very depressing reading. Are for and against stats are pitiful.
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"To be honest I'm not asking for you to agree not belittle a point of view.
A) the half back problems needed to be addressed and haven't. If he does see it, then why doesn't he do something about it. At present trying Dec Patton could not possibly do any worse than we're doing at present. Again and in my opinion Smith seems a lot more disinterested than ever. Perhaps he's planning his exit route, hence Agar appointment. But you have to agree something radical needs doing at half back.
B) Clark was fairly open on his first interview with the comment about hope to win things in the two years I'm here. I know news signed for 4, but that's what he said. Be is playing completely disinterested and is at present is just doing what any other hooker would do, ship it on.
Again in my opinion if something drastic is not done we're in big trouble'"
Those are perfectly reasonable opinions. I don't know whether anything "drastic" needs to be done but playing injured/unfit players( Bridge) and out of position players (lots) needs to stop...
I don't know how good Patton is but given fans attitudes to inexperienced young English lads I would fear for him if he ever started slowly. ...
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| Quote ="Tiz Lad"To be honest I'm not asking for you to agree not belittle a point of view.
A) the half back problems needed to be addressed and haven't. If he does see it, then why doesn't he do something about it. At present trying Dec Patton could not possibly do any worse than we're doing at present. Again and in my opinion Smith seems a lot more disinterested than ever. Perhaps he's planning his exit route, hence Agar appointment. But you have to agree something radical needs doing at half back.
B) Clark was fairly open on his first interview with the comment about hope to win things in the two years I'm here. I know news signed for 4, but that's what he said. Be is playing completely disinterested and is at present is just doing what any other hooker would do, ship it on.
Again in my opinion if something drastic is not done we're in big trouble'"
I can understand peoples frustration, but we need to be logical here. Currently Patton is playing for Crusaders, two levels below SL, and from what I can glean he is not dominating the play like a Danny Brough or Lee Briers. Asking him to step up and produce the goods at SL level looks a very tall order atm.
As for Clark, if he wants to play in the NRL and pick up a good wage, he needs to show he can produce the goods. A mediocre season in SL is not going to impress any NRL coaches. It therefore makes no sense for him to show a complete disdain for his current role, and furthermore would completely alienate the rest of the squad.
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| Been looking for that interview Clark did in which he went on about the NRL without once bringing anything about his new club...can't for the love of me find it, i remember it bit can't find it.
The one striking thing with Clark is last year, watch his highlights, watch the games he played in...always a smile on his face, really enjoyed playing.
Looks miserable as sin here.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Been looking for that interview Clark did in which he went on about the NRL without once bringing anything about his new club...can't for the love of me find it, i remember it bit can't find it.
The one striking thing with Clark is last year, watch his highlights, watch the games he played in...always a smile on his face, really enjoyed playing.
Looks miserable as sin here.'"
I have a few mates from Cas and they are texting me every week saying how much it kills them seeing us not use the lad properly, he really seems frustrated too.
Clark was arguably the player of the Four Nations, because he was allowed to play with that freedom which back in 2011 Tony Smith used to pontificate about each week. We are currently playing like a dull Richard Agar club.
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| Quote ="Bobby_Peru"Just looked at the table. Very depressing reading. Are for and against stats are pitiful.'"
Lose to Cas on monday and we will be 9th , or in the unlikely event of a draw between Catalan and Widnes , 10th.
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| It was only a few weeks back that the 4th placed team had their chief twittering that he had 'had enough'.
It's just a very tightly placed league. 1 win puts you into 3rd.
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| Gonna be a four pointer against Wakefield now next Saturday..☺️
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| Quote ="13>15"Quote ="Bobby_Peru"Just looked at the table. Very depressing reading. Are for and against stats are pitiful.'"
Lose to Cas on monday and we will be 9th , or in the unlikely event of a draw between Catalan and Widnes , 10th.'"
Maybe the kick up the booty the club needs....concentrate the minds of coaches, players & our new CEO.
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| Just looking at this topic thread and still thinking, do people really think we're as bad as the fateful 2002 season.
Because I don't.....
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