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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Hock leaving will weaken Wigan in one obvious sense, but they deserve congratulating for the stance they've taken. Assuming what Lenaghan has said is true, and who am I to doubt him, they've taken the only course of action open to them. They're better off without him.
As for widnes, he instantly improves their team massively and parodixically to Wigan being better off without, they are much better with him. It's a no brainer and should certainly help sell some "Stronghold" memberships of whatever silly name they've given to their season tickets this year.'"
Do widnes have the players/halves to get decent use out of hock though?
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| I find this whole episode highly amusing
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| I think the giraffe will back him up well, he always seemed to back up Robinson well.
Does seem like it's a stop gap year though before going to Oz
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| Quote ="Coventry Bears"May struggle to get in the top 8?
I think that is more wishful thinking on your part
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Whilst we can only dream, I think that you are right Mr Bears and that Wigan will be in the mix.
I don't think that your halves are half as bad as being made out on here, Smith has played well against us previously in poor sides Losing a disruptive penalty machine like Hock might just do you some good whilst he can conjur up some eye catching moments would i want him in a Wire jersey/ No thanks not for me
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Whilst we can only dream, I think that you are right Mr Bears and that Wigan will be in the mix.
I don't think that your halves are half as bad as being made out on here, Smith has played well against us previously in poor sides Losing a disruptive penalty machine like Hock might just do you some good whilst he can conjur up some eye catching moments would i want him in a Wire jersey/ No thanks not for me'"
Yet Hock only gave away two more penalties than Ben Westood and made three hundred metres more with the ball.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yet Hock only gave away two more penalties than Ben Westood and made three hundred metres more with the ball.'"
Maybe, but Benny is better looking.........
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yet Hock only gave away two more penalties than Ben Westood and made three hundred metres more with the ball.'"
How many more games did he play?
Widnes already have a few penalty machines in both the backs and forwards. I also think that Hock might realise very quickly that the quality of player at Widnes is somewhat lacking compared to what is at Wigan. Poor move for a player aged 29 who should now be at the top of his game.
For what it's worth I think Hock's behaviour has been disgraceful (again). Wigan give him another chance and he throws it back in their face.
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| England International and goes out on loan ???
Was this Wigans choice or Hock's?
Either way it seems bizarre to go from a table top side to a team of no-hopers.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yet Hock only gave away two more penalties than Ben Westood and made three hundred metres more with the ball.'"
The difference here is that we share our yards around, all you have proved here is that you were overly reliant on him to get you up the pitch.... which makes this departure even more painful for your weakened / depleted/lightweight pack.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"The difference here is that =#FF0000we share our yards around, all you have proved here is that you were overly reliant on him to get you up the pitch.... which makes this departure even more painful for your weakened / depleted/lightweight pack.'"
Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Charnley and Richards are try machines.'"
Not without decent centres or half backs they won't be !
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| And what does that mean then? In the real world I mean.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
That would make Westwood rubbish then i take it ?
If only he played in a team like Wigan. He'd realise his true potential and win trophies and that.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
Never mind, all our squad members won more Challenge Cups and played in more Grand Finals in 2012 that their Wigan counterparts.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
those stats must look real fine in your trophy cabinet...enjoy!
I'd like to know what the head to head stats look like....anyone?
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Quote ="Oxford Exile"those stats must look real fine in your trophy cabinet...enjoy!
I'd like to know what the head to head stats look like....anyone?'"
Always willing to help.
www.superleague.co.uk/stats
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Quote ="Oxford Exile"those stats must look real fine in your trophy cabinet...enjoy!
I'd like to know what the head to head stats look like....anyone?'"
Always willing to help.
www.superleague.co.uk/stats
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery" In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
That would be really impressive if you hadn't just made it up (unless you are talking about electric or gas meters).
For example which of your centres made more than the 2,462m of Ryan Atkins or with Lima being the only Wigan prop to make more metres than Hill, Morley and Wood who are their Wigan counterparts?
Also Mike Cooper who played loose last year made more than O'Loughlin.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Really?
Westwood would have been down in 7th place at Wigan just ahead of Liam Farrell. In fact Wigans top 16 meters makers all made more than their Wire counterparts'"
That must be why Westwood got in the SL dream team then.
I bet he dreams of being able to make yards like Farrell.
Maybe next season, if he plays well, he can also aim for a transfer to super leagues bottom club
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What was wrong with the way "Super League" used to do the stats. Why did they change?
The tables from last years stats make no sense to me.
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What was wrong with the way "Super League" used to do the stats. Why did they change?
The tables from last years stats make no sense to me.
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| Hock to Wire via Widnes. Don't bet against it!
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"loved this bit
[iThe Cheshire outfit – bankrolled by haulage tycoon Steve O’Connor – also have cash to spend as they attempt to establish themselves among the competition’s top clubs.
But other outfits have sniffed around[/i'"
He'll be a Wire. Wigan won't sell him directly, we'll get him the same way Saints got Long via Widnes.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"That would be really impressive if you hadn't just made it up (unless you are talking about electric or gas meters).
For example which of your centres made more than the 2,462m of Ryan Atkins or with Lima being the only Wigan prop to make more metres than Hill, Morley and Wood who are their Wigan counterparts?
Also Mike Cooper who played loose last year made more than O'Loughlin.'"
You know exactly what I meant. Wigans top 16 metre makers v Wire top metre makers.
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| Quote ="Crosfielder"He'll be a Wire. Wigan won't sell him directly, we'll get him the same way Saints got Long via Widnes.'"
Completely different scenario
Wigan still hold his registration so he contracted to them until 2015, so if Wire want to sign him they will have to pay Wigan a transfer fee.
Anyway he's far to young for Wire, so maybe 2015 would suit.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You know exactly what I meant. Wigans top 16 metre makers v Wire top metre makers.'"
Great, How many trophies or finals did you get too last year?
Answer's on a postcard and correctly answer this question right for a bonus point, why should of Bridge been sent off against Huddersfield?
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