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| As a sport RL cannot be seen to condone the actions of Hock, Tuson, Magennis and for that matter McCarthy-Scarsbrook. In that respect I believe the ref was right to dismiss three of them, his only mistake was in letting the fourth (who was quite possibly the instigator of the whole thing) get away with it.
Gareth Hock is an awesome Rugby League player, but he desperately needs to learn to channel his aggression in the right way. Opposition players know that if they push him far enough he is prone to the sort of brain fart we saw yesterday.
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| Deserves a 10 match ban for just being ugly. What a fantastic player he can be without his thuggery.
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| Punching is against the rules so Hock deserved a red. 'The Biff' should be about big but legal hits, not cheap shots. As for 'not liking' Hock, I've never met the bloke.
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| Quote ="thelinesman"He's a thug end of story'"
--this-- hes just an eye gouging,ref pushing, annoying, obnoxious ,bullying, ex druggie *moron*,not quite the* role model* you would wish to promote in rl or one too actually defend i think
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| I reckon his woman must cop one hell of a beating behind closed doors.
"aaaggghhhhhhh.....what have I told you about putting the milk back in the fridge with the label facing the wrong way"
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| Quote ="Richeastender"Deserves a 10 match ban for just being ugly -
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| Quote ="Richeastender"Deserves a 10 match ban for just being ugly.'"
God knows what ban you want to give Ben Westwood.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"God knows what ban you want to give Ben Westwood.
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-nice one - ,but having said that,* danny brough* must be facing a lifetime ban
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| Quote ="just_browny"Can you imagine his discussions with Wane?
It's a pity nobody can be on hand to note down their verbal exchanges and publish them, the level of wit and repartee must be positively Wildean.'"
Quite frankly, no although I'm thinking Captain Caveman meets Morph.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Quite frankly, no although I'm thinking Captain Caveman meets Morph.'"
I'm going with Ted Bovis meets Alice The Goon (from Popeye)...
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| I see BBC managed to show the brawl on today's lunchtime local news...not surprisingly , they didn't manage to show any of the rugby.
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| Quote ="Richeastender"Deserves a 10 match ban for just being ugly. What a fantastic player he can be without his thuggery.'"
Then Westwood would get a 20 match ban.
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| Quote ="tank123"Then Westwood would get a 20 match ban.'"
Well done on taking a crap joke and making it even worse.
Bit like what Wigan are doing with Gelling.
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| A bit of biff and a lot of over-reaction firstly by the ref and now by all of us amateur pundits
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| Hock and LMS did very little, if anything worth talking about. Hock pushed his head into LMS and they both hugged each other for a bit; Hock stroked LMS's face a few times with his knuckles.
McGuinnes and Tuson threw a few lame punches between each other. O'Lochlin held McG and Tuson got a few cheap/free shots in on him. Then another Wigan player (Mossop?) punched McGuinnes when McG wasn't looking.
That was IT!
The ref completely overreacted. LMS should have been told to move away while Hock was told off (no card, not red or yellow). McG and Tuson should have both been Sin Bin'd. Mossop(?) should have been put on report for possibly striking someone who was unawares.
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| I'm in the 'Bring back the biff' camp.
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| Quote ="thelinesman"He's a thug end of story'"
And what about Les Boyd who you used to have "nuff said"
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| Quote ="danburge82"Hock and LMS did very little, if anything worth talking about. Hock pushed his head into LMS and they both hugged each other for a bit; Hock stroked LMS's face a few times with his knuckles.
McGuinnes and Tuson threw a few lame punches between each other. O'Lochlin held McG and Tuson got a few cheap/free shots in on him. Then another Wigan player (Mossop?) punched McGuinnes when McG wasn't looking.
That was IT!
The ref completely overreacted. LMS should have been told to move away while Hock was told off (no card, not red or yellow). McG and Tuson should have both been Sin Bin'd. Mossop(?) should have been put on report for possibly striking someone who was unawares.'"
You are going to get yourself banned from this board for talking sense!!!!
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| I'm not a big fan of Hock, but if this had been in an England shirt v the Aussies would we not all be saying that's exactly what we need?
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| Quote ="cumbrianwolf"I'm not a big fan of Hock, but if this had been in an England shirt v the Aussies would we not all be saying that's exactly what we need?'"
What, him getting sent off? I'm not sure it would help us much. There are plenty of ways to be aggressive and dominate an opponent without fighting. Hock tried to bully LMS and when he stood up to him Hock couldn't handle it. What's he going to do when he plays Australia? They would laugh at him, then destroy him the next time he got the ball.
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| Quote ="cumbrianwolf"I'm not a big fan of Hock, but if this had been in an England shirt v the Aussies would we not all be saying that's exactly what we need?'"
A thug is a thug no matter what shirt it has on.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"You are going to get yourself banned from this board for talking sense!!!!'"
That explains whilst you're still here then.
<that's a joke. Dont get cross.>
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"That explains whilst you're still here then.
<that's a joke. Dont get cross.>'"
I notice you are still here too..
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| I enjoyed the biff but as a ref i would have...
Sent off Hock for throwing the first punches and Magennis
LMS in the Bin for instigating and Tucson with him for throwing punches (in defence)
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| LMS didn't instigate, me bro, you sound like a pie eater saying that.
bottom line, this all started cos hock was being a cheating get and trying to steal loose head at a saints scrum.
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