Leeds has been cosmopilan since about 1880 ,that is why the leeds accent is not the accepted yorkshire dialect.You should hear Castleford aiming their antisemetic chants at Leeds

Ashley Klein, i think they have started a petition.

Thought it might have been Radio Leeds!

As a Leeds resident I would back up lionarmour, to say that the Leeds accent is that broad Yorkshire 'thee or tha' is like saying the Manchester accent is like Paddy McGuinness or Vernon Kay. The Leeds accent is like Garry Schofield or Ellery Hanley.

Also what lionarmour says about being more cosmopolitan is true, although Leeds isn't exactly London. A lot of the smaller towns in Yorkshire that people make fun of as being inbred are basically the same communities that they have been for centuries, people that 'make it' in life might leave but nobody moves there, whereas Leeds is a place outsiders move to like I did.

Leeds is also a far better and more interesting city to live in than Warrington. Warrington centre feels like it's dominated by young chavs, teenagers and booze Britain, Leeds has its fair share of neanderthals but there's also a lot more class to it than you get in Warrington.

Your comment about Warringtons town centre residents betrays your ignorance.
Warrington is a huge place and much more than the town centre.
However as I found myself this weekend Leeds is an interesting place to visit, and the fish market is worth a look.
But it's also full of chavs and nerdowells like most towns in our fair land.

You live in Leeds and have knowlege of the accent,you will also recognise that JP JJB and ,Bailey speak with bramley ,Stanningley/west Leeds accents

I'd say Warrington town centre is dominated too much by clubs and bars than it is by Chavs.

Also, I know a few people from Leeds who do use words like "tha", "mesen", etc.

Just like I know people from Warrington who have a slightly scouse accent, others from Warrington who have a slightly manc accent, accents are traits you pick up from those around you and considering Leeds is this 'cosmopolitan' place that people move towards it would be ridiculous to suggest that there is only 'one true accent'. The same is true for any given town or city.

Another example is people from St Helens, a lot I know have what we'd probably call "wooleyback" or "generic lancashire" accents, and yet there are others I know who sound like they're out & out scousers.

Unfortunately, there are no towns or cities in this fair land that are free from the blight of the lesser spotted Chav.

I wouldn't get to upset about it! Just read artical poster can not be over 10 years old.

Look I have nothing against Wire fans at all ..Indeed my perception of them changed after the 2010 CCFINAL.I and my group were applauded onto our coach by Wire fans after we had been mullered,not may other club fans would do that,thankyou.Now I live over sea's ,but I am a born and bred loiner and I do know that anyone that speaks tha and thee !Cannot have been born in Leeds ,unless people from the old mining area's 3rd generation ?who know's ,but last time I worked in Kippax ,or even Rothwell 1994 they were still Cas and Wakey ,but they spoke the "mining dialect".The op did not hear a Leeds person say "tha"

Getting upset at a Leeds fan's review of a Leeds ganme, or a Leeds site review of the same is pretty silly. When I was younger, every try scored against leeds was down to our poor defence, and every try we scored was down to the quality of our play. It took me years to admit that, just occasionally, opposition players might be 'quite good', or even 'ever so slightly better than' their opposites for Leeds.

If you've ever read Fever Pitch and Hornby describing how annoyed he'd get when his dad praised the opposition, that was me and my dad to a tee.

I for one would suggest Sally Cinnamon stays in Leeds!

Lets keep it friendly on the pitch rivalry, and not Civic rivalry,if there is a Civic rivalry????REALLY?

I am purely venting my anger towards someone disrespecting my home town i proudly live in .

Have you ever been to Leeds ... or left Warrington?

Three posts in and your venting your anger ,Wow must be a record!!

Well, I live in Kenilworth. I fond it nicer than either Leeds or Warrington, but only because it's smaller, has its own castle and slightly fewer chavs (although even here they loiter around the high street. When I'm king.....

Comparing Warrington to Leeds is a bit apples and pears anyway, given the disparity of size and function. Mostly, I expect, it comes down to which (if either) you call home. For me, I've never really been to Warrington other than to Wilderspool and HJ, so I don't know much about it. My loss no doubt, but you can't be everywhere at once. Leeds on the other hand was home for the first 27 years of my life (barring a few years at uni in Liverpool). So I prefer it on principle tro pretty much any other large town or city. So there.

Oh, and I thought Mr Silverwood made a decent fist of reffing a very fast, high-action game on Friday. The main difference between the sides was probably in the error count, but it wasn't much difference. Could have gone either way really.

Finally, unofficial fan sites are written by fans, so they ought to be biased. THe person further up the post who sought to use this fact as evidence that standards of "fair-mindedness and reasonable behaviour" are slipping needs to find a little perspective, in my view.

As you were.

Lived in Leeds for 42 years and NEVER heard a loiner say "tha" or "thee" for that matter. Are you getting the Leeds accent mixed up with someone from Castleford or Barnsley? The Leeds accent is pretty a pretty tame Yorkshire accent as it goes and contains as much old English as the Warrington accent. But thanks for the sterotype.

so you know beyond all doubt that no one from leeds ever speaks and uses "tha or thee" in their usual speach patterns, bollox! your talking out of tha arrse!

point of fact- you do not have to be born in leeds to be a leeds fan!

A resounding YES.A few years ago I could recognise all the different Leeds accents,and there were quite a few,East Leeds I.E York road area were traditionally a mix of Irish and Italian ,going back to the mid to late 19th century,and York roader's spoke faster and didn't always say T instead of the like other parts do.South leeds Hunslet and other areas did speak a bit broader ,but never spoke thee and tha,but travel out a bit to Rothwell ,Kippax etc you will hear thee and tha.West Leeds Armley ,Bramley ,Stanningley,It always A slower way of speaking JJB,JP,even Bailey.I come from Bramley and the older Bramley folk did speak broad,but not thee and tha .Then there is North Leeds Moortown ,Chapel Allerton,Alwoodley etc ,well that area was alway's dominated by the Jewish accent.In last 20 years there have been another influx of people from the South and of course MERSEYSIDE,and that is also adding to the accent too.I speak with a downtown Leeds accent something like Maurice Bamford, and last time I was home I was in a shop and a girl from London said you come from rarnd ere lav?I said "Leeds born n bred"she said "reelly never wuold o guessed,and of course there are thousands of students in the city and some stay.Its a cosmopolitan city and the ccent has never been broad yorkshire and its changing all the time

This really is riveting stuff Leeds' loss is definately Philidelphia's gain...you are Professor Higgins and I claim my £5

I wasn't knocking Warrington either,and like I said before I was impressed by how gratious they were in 2010,but I wasn't talking out of my either.The South Philly accent is good too,they really do speak like Rocky Balboa

Too many tv programmes stereotyping accents . EE BAH GUM!

I knew you weren't knocking Warrington I was just thinking ahead in wonderment how an accent crossed between old Bramley (not to be confused with newer Bramley) and South Philly would sound...the love child of Maurice Bamford and Rocky Bilboa's twin sister. Perhaps if they crossed it with a York Roaders where they speak quickly that would be a belter, possibly Wiganeese then again....