I was too busy kicking the dog and pulling my hair out to be arrogant.

As for nowadays i'm just enjoying myself. Whatever happens in these play offs it's been another great season for us so what will be will be.

If Wire win the Grand Final i'll be the first to congratulate them. They have been superb this year.

Saints finished top of the table in 2007 and 2008 with a superior points difference over everyone else. Yet lost to Leeds in the GF on both occasions. Winning the LLS is a fantastic achievement that doesn't get the recognition it deserves. But being the best team in the comp and finishing top doesn't always guarantee a GF win, as past history has shown.

I don't think that's entirely true. I couldn't tell you who won the 2006 GF, or most other years to be honest. It's all relative, most people remember things because they were important to them. I'm sure the teams that were involved in the 2006 GF remember who won, equally the people that went probably remember. But I don't think it's true to say that in 'x' amount of years "everyone will be able to name the 2011 Grand Final winners".

dont worry about it--> we will be singing it at o-t-

5 years? I've watched Saints win something like 20 or trophies and I can honestly say I didn't even bother to stay for the LLS presentations.

Honestly, you Warrington fans are so precious about your achievement and trying to big it up. Forget the small club we've never won anything routine, you are a fantastic club and from now on will probably be contesting every major trophy for the next decade or so. You (IMO) WILL win SL this season. Once you win that your opinions of the LLS will change. Trust me. It's like celebrating winning the National when you've still got a fence to jump.

Let me give you some advice sir / madam - don't come on to the Warrington Wolves web forum if it upsets you so much. Leave us to celebrate every achievement in our own way. It it offends, cross the street and just walk on by.

However, I suspect that a number of opposition fans (yourself included) would just love to be a Wire fan to enjoy the journey that we are currently on.

Believe !!

Wasn't it your precious St Helens club who pestered the RFL to award a trophy to the League Leaders to ensure that their superb achievements were recognised?

I am a wigan fan but as an overall fan of the game, I think that warrington deserved top spot this year. For a team to score over 1000 points and not be league leaders would of been a bit of a mockery, also I still believe that the team that finishes top should be classed as the champions as it would make the system a bit of a disgrace if say one of the teams outside of wigan and warrington were crowned champions who finished between 7 and 17 points behind. I still think it is going to go down to wire, wigan,stains or leeds mind as you cant write any of them off yet

Oh yeah nearly forgot, Well done for finishing top

Certainly wasn't me. Mind you Saints would probably like recognising the League Leaders Shield because of our recent form in the Grand Final.

One good thing about Saints being bobbins this year is that I don't have to go and watch them lose in the rain at Old Trafford.

Aren't you the current SL Champions?

Four years ago if someone had said that Wire would beat Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Bradford (the old top four) both home and away we'd have been laughed at. Time for those clubs to recognise Wire are here and accept it.

Sad One how can I trust you when for years you posted that Wire would beat Saints and each and every game Saints blasted us off the park.

Doc I like your diagnosis

I think you'll struggle to find fans of any of those clubs that don't agree that wire are very good team.

Play-offs are now crap according to them.

God help them if they mess up tomorrow

Like said before I am a wigan fan but appreciate good rugby. I give credit were due, but dont slag off other clubs, all can say is good luck to all teams in the playoffs but concentrate on supporting your club rather than calling others, if all the players can wish each other good luck I am sure the fans can

the reason people hate wigan is not that there winning is that they think that there bigger than what they are, they think there the most famous club in rugby league when really thats only counts england and that because of there success when they could spend money ask anyone in australia theay would take the out of wigan and probably wire.

in a perfect world, then you would think so and its good when you can, however we've seen some absolute one eyed e coming from over your direction(them lot not you ok ) including one waste of carbon who says he doesn't like watching the way we play, that to me is not a fan of RL.

If you can appreciate or enjoy or be entertained by the attacking rugby we play, then you're watching the wrong sport.

NUFF SAID me thinks !!

CHAMPIONEEEEEESSSS!!!

Not to troll or anything, but I don't understand the bit in bold as that's not strictly true.

2007 - I assume you will have seen your team win the National League Grand Final and finish as league leaders before the playoffs.

I've not seen my team win a Grand Final yet, but you have. So you'll know what it's like more that I will. Hopefully only for a few more weeks though!

Oh dear

I feel sorry for Swinton. They win the league 1 at a canter, win automatic promotuion BUT because this means they will not be competing in their playoffs they cannot win their GF at the HJ and so does that mean they cant be league champions. awwwww




Like Ive said before, funny how the CC is mickey mouse trophy last year (from Wigan POV). Funny how LLS menas sod all last year (from Wolves POV)

Lets just set the record staright, get to OT, beat Saints at OT and turn them into mummy ducks.

Us Wires aren't "precious" (truly horrendous word by the way!) about our achievement, we're extatic about it and are bigging it up because it deserves bigging up.

When you win the grand final this season that will blow the LLS out of the water. It's something pretty special at old trafford when the hooter goes and your team has won. You'll see.

And from then on you won't give a flying **** abou the LLS.

I remember going to Salford the last game of the season 2009 leeds were presented with the LLS and they were deliberately cool about it .Sinfield didnt even play but came on after to collect the trophy the team stood for pics waved to the travelling fans like they always do the went off,no triumphalism.Bluey said before "weve won the lid,now we must win the Trophy,lets keep feet on the ground and celebrate when its won".The LLS is good to go on trophy's won list in years to come.Warrington have been great this year and you will be worthy champions if you get to OT and win the GF