Couldn't agree more, I've always tried to defend him but he doesn't do enough for a side challenging for titles.

And me but Clarke does look like a player at the end of tenure at the club. He doesn't seem to be doing anything particularly well at the moment.

youd know all about downward slides after watching your trash for the last 10 years plus , hope your looking forward to becoming the new whipping boys of superleague

This. Hit the nail on the head here. I'm afraid their are two more better hookers at Wire than Clarke.

Oh grow Up and read the original post.. Where did I blame Clarke for the loss??? I actually stated I wasnt blaming him to avoid potentail posts like this one?

What I actually asked if should we let him go now and bring another younger hooker in to learn the trade??

FFS

I know full well you didn't say you blamed Clarke for the loss

My point is, why have another thread which picks on one player. Wire fans HAVE to have someone to whinge at.
Collective responsibilty. Clarke wasn't the only one to give away penalties/knock on/pass forwards, yet where are the threads critisising other individuals ????? FFS!!!

After one mistake by Clarke on Fri night, the posts on the Hudds v Wire thread went into meltdown, bang, bang, bang and the thread turned into a kick Clarke whilst he's down, issue.

summed up perfectly.

Not Clarke's fault we lost in theory but yeah, the bloke is gash, and has been for a fair while. Hardly uncommon for me to point that out. He's kind of like a turd in the punch bowl!!

Now I'm not going into the a Higham/Clarke issue as i've trekked down that road a million times. But I hope that no-one can honestly sit there and tell me that Higham wouldn't have been a better option on friday? Yes, he gives silly penalties away at times (which does make my pi$$ itch), but against a big pack which are dominating yours, you need a spark. And that, even if it's the only thing he posseses, is the perfect weapon for situations like friday.

Having said all this however, the collective performance of the team, accompanied by a very very good performance by Hudds, was the reason we lost. They will give a few teams a hiding at Galpharm this season.

And did anybody feel we look like a team lacking in confidence slightly? It certainly appeared that way to me, and its quite astounding.

He forgot his kit!!

Anybody follow what I'm getting at here??

Ah I get it now.. Its My timing your worried about?? I should have waited till the end of the season to make a Clarke out post??

I think you'll find Yes all the Players made Knock ons forward passes gave penalties away.. But Clarke was probably the player on for the shortest time and stuck out like a sore thumb.. However It wasnt this particular game I was refering too .

I do hate to bag a player in his testimonial year. But he just doesnt offer us anything anymore

I am glad you agree.

When Widnes have been in SL as long as Warrington we will have won more trophies.

And, by the way, I live almost 100 miles from Widnes.

Teams have their spell at the top, like Widnes have, but they don't stay there all of the time.

Warrington have been mediocre for a long time, but two good seasons does not make them world beaters.

"flippin 'eck" that Grannox air travels at least 100 miles. He's been sniffing it again

Good for you pal, we all need pipe dreams. Keep them alive, that's what I say.

If Warrington had been in the championship for as long as Widnes have, we would have won more trophies than you.

It travels east, which is the reason why .............

You may well get to try it!

You're right... if this club doesn't stop this alarming slump in fortunes, on and off the pitch, we could struggle when the next set of franchises come round.

I really cannot fathom why you decided to pick out Clarke from the teams performance last night.... everyone was below parr. I know you've said that you're not blaming him, but you really are as you went on to complain about him, strange that you decided to do it after we lose a match. When we win, nobody says a word, but when we lose, Clarke is cra-p threads pop up. Evans was terrible in defence, Harrison was dropping balls all over the place, Ryan Atkins did sod all, BRIDGE was just non existant, for a player meant to be playing at 6 that night he never did anything. Clarke was definitely not worse than any of the players on Friday, and he isn't on any other night, at worst he's just average, which we have a fair share of players like that in the team, but they don't get blamed.

Like I said on another topic, when you are at the top there is only one way to go when every team wants to beat you.

Two Challenge cups back to back --- good wins, too, take a lot to live up to, and I would worry also if one of your top playmakers was coming to the end of his career.

I'm dead worried now.

Whatever will we do.

I know, what'll Widnes do when Tony Myler retires

BRIDGE - Not poot a foot wrong in any other game this season (playing out of position)

EVANS - Fantasic game against leeds . Not put a foot wrong in the other games??

CLARKE - 10 years at the club playing in a normal position . Granted behind a beaten pack. Gives away pentalties and thowing forward passes left right and centre?

Anyways It wasnt about this particular game... As i said maybe my timings wrong..

THE QUESTION I ASKED IS.....

Should we let him go now and give someone younger a chance????

I am not going to defend my question AGAIN!

The fundamental issue Bobster, is, there doesn't appear to be anybody looking like stepping up in the U20s at the moment.

I'm with Bobbie on this.

Were fine with a combination of Monaghan and Higham, thats whats brought us our success. Clarke adds nothing, we've become a very quick ball playing side and Clarkes very basic slow game will never compliment our style of play.

If we need someone to step into the hooking role after Monaghan and Higham then Louis Anderson can play there, its a position he's played before and its the position that got him noticed as a promising player in the NRL.

Clarke will always be defended on here regardless so i wouldn't bother Bobbie.