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| As a very casual Utd fan i don't see the fuss, people come people go.
If someone offered me more to do the same i'd leave my job too.
Don't understand why people can't equate the same logic to pro sport.
All i ask is they give 100% in the time that they are there.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"Dont know why people are knocking the lad,is it his fault he was born with talent.That people are willing to pay millions for him to showcase it.Fair play to him if he can get £250k a week,its human that your going to go were the money is.You would do the same in your job.Am a City a fan and i for one would love to see him at City.'"
Exactly how much money does a man need?.....He was set for life when he signed for United back in '04, so to suggest he should just hunt the cash suggests enormous greed.
I really can't see him joining another English club.....The romantic in me would love to see him showing a bit of rare love for the actual game (and not the cash), and for him to return to Everton....That would be a massive PR triumph on his behalf.....A move to City would be the exact opposite, just another mercenary chasing the cash, hiding behind all this guff about how great and ambitious City are.
Realistically, he's off to Real Madrid..... Re-united with Ronaldo, plus the chance for Real to fob some of their big money waste of times to United.
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| Yes it comes to a point where diminishing returns set in on getting extra money.
Imagine a fantasy world where you are a top RL player, Warrington are the biggest and most successful club in the league, there's no salary cap, and you're earning £180000 a week.
Then you get the opportunity to sign for Salford for £200000 a week. Would you quit Wire to play for Salford for the extra £20000 a week? Would the marginal benefit of that extra £20k spends be able to buy you stuff that would make playing for Salford outweigh playing for the biggest and most successful club in the league?
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| As a United fan, I can't see him doing any better than United, however if he wants to go then let him, no player is bigger than the club, although the results have not been good so far the problem for us this season has not been with attack but rather the defence, I think he is holding out for more money at United ala Wes Brown, If Rooney does think he is bigger than the club then i suggest he speaks to McGrath, Kanchelskis, Sharpe, Stam, Beckham and Van Nistelrooy
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Yes it comes to a point where diminishing returns set in on getting extra money.
Imagine a fantasy world where you are a top RL player, Warrington are the biggest and most successful club in the league, there's no salary cap, and you're earning £180000 a week.
Then you get the opportunity to sign for Salford for £200000 a week. Would you quit Wire to play for Salford for the extra £20000 a week? Would the marginal benefit of that extra £20k spends be able to buy you stuff that would make playing for Salford outweigh playing for the biggest and most successful club in the league?'"
but you'd have to have a brain cell to work that out ...unfortunately Rooney's only Brain cell is owned by his agent
So thats exactly why Rooney will move to City.
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| He left Everton the club he supported (and continues to do so) because they did not offer him a realistic opportunity to win regular silverware going forward. The fact he got more money himself and Everton made a few much needed quid was a benificial sideline to everybody's advantage.
Now as things stand with Manchester United now being a selling club he finds himself in the same boat. He'll want regular silverware going forward so a move to Man City or Chelsea looks the most likely. This would also have the same beneficial sidelines as before in that he'll get more money whilst Man Utd will get much needed funds to service their debt.
What will happen in two years time though? With Ronaldo and Rooney gone which player will be capable oif demanding the £50m transfer fee to service the debt: Owen Hargreaves?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"He left Everton the club he supported (and continues to do so) because they did not offer him a realistic opportunity to win regular silverware going forward. The fact he got more money himself and Everton made a few much needed quid was a benificial sideline to everybody's advantage.
Now as things stand with Manchester United now being a selling club he finds himself in the same boat. He'll want regular silverware going forward so a move to Man City or Chelsea looks the most likely. This would also have the same beneficial sidelines as before in that he'll get more money whilst Man Utd will get much needed funds to service their debt.
What will happen in two years time though? With Ronaldo and Rooney gone which player will be capable oif demanding the £50m transfer fee to service the debt: Owen Hargreaves?'"
Nani will be the next on the production line.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Nani will be the next on the production line.'"
......He's good, but nowhere near world-class and never will be.....Yes, the hype will dictate he is the next big thing, but anyone with half a brain can see he's destined to be a luxury player, never good enough to set the world alight.
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......He's good, but nowhere near world-class and never will be.....Yes, the hype will dictate he is the next big thing, but anyone with half a brain can see he's destined to be a luxury player, never good enough to set the world alight.'"
Massive improvement the past 10 months, all comes with regular playing time. Been the best player this season along with Berbatov. It's also not just at United, he's become a very important part of the Portugal squad as well. Nearly matched last season totals already.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Massive improvement the past 10 months, all comes with regular playing time. Been the best player this season along with Berbatov. It's also not just at United, he's become a very important part of the Portugal squad as well.'"
No disrespect, but its not hard to look slightly special at United, with plodders like Fletcher and Anderson clogging up your midfield...
Nani is a luxury player, someone to add spark among the midfield kickers, and, yes, he has improved, though that wouldn't be difficult because he was awful when he first arrived.
I agree he's a 'showbiz' player, somebody who might attract the Real's or Barca's just because they like a bit of flash to pull in the crowds, but its ridiculous to believe he's going to attract huge cash, like Ronaldo or Rooney.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"No disrespect, but its not hard to look slightly special at United, with plodders like Fletcher and Anderson clogging up your midfield...
Nani is a luxury player, someone to add spark among the midfield kickers, and, yes, he has improved, though that wouldn't be difficult because he was awful when he first arrived.
I agree he's a 'showbiz' player, somebody who might attract the Real's or Barca's just because they like a bit of flash to pull in the crowds, but its ridiculous to believe he's going to attract huge cash, like Ronaldo or Rooney.'"
Plodder's like Fletcher? been one our best player's the past two seasons. I agree with Anderson who i don't quite get, but Fletcher has been class. Nani signed a new deal in Jan,
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......He's good, but nowhere near world-class and never will be.....Yes, the hype will dictate he is the next big thing, but anyone with half a brain can see he's destined to be a luxury player, never good enough to set the world alight.'"
Couldn't agree more. Look at Anderson now he was meant to be the next Zidane and look at him now.
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| this is the weakest utd side in years.... and its about to lose its best player..... mid aug he told utd he was leaving... no wonder he has been poor all season. Best game he has played this year was when he had a stormer for england.
chelsea and man city both have better squads now. 3rd for utd this season tops.
I think city might win the league.
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| the united squad has been ridiculously poor since ronaldo left, yet last year, we were a few points off winning the league, so shows how good we actually are really doesnt it? rooney has been more hinderance than help this year, and after this, i dont want to see him in a united shirt again. hes made it clear he wants out, so get rid! united may be cash strapped but we dont need money so much that we would actually sell to our cross town rival! i dont think we'd ever need money that bad! the club know that by getting rid of wayne, well end up in a bad situatuion, nobody would ever be stupid enough to turn that situation worse by sending him to city or chelsea! if he goes, send him abroad! end of!
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| imagine if he did do the romantic thing and come back to Everton.
'i just want to come back home and play for everton'
there would be some hardcore evertonians in a tricky position.
be amazing... it would turn football on its head if he came back on less cash
'how much does one man need... im happy with what ive got....once a blue always a blue'
[iOne of best players in world takes massive pay cut[/i
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"imagine if he did do the romantic thing and come back to Everton.
'i just want to come back home and play for everton'
there would be some hardcore evertonians in a tricky position.
be amazing... it would turn football on its head if he came back on less cash
'how much does one man need... im happy with what ive got....once a blue always a blue'
[iOne of best players in world takes massive pay cut[/i
best bit of brand recovery promotion ever.'"
I already stated that....It would be nice, but won't happen.
As a 'hardcore Evertonian', I'd be over the moon.....Forget all the Judas nonsense, Everton are 1 top class striker away from challenging for the league and Rooney would be more than adequate.
The more I think of it the more I believe Madrid is where he is destined.....At the moment, he's on £100k a week carrying an average United team, his form constantly under the spotlight...Go to Spain, he doubles his salary and becomes a cast member in football's great cabaret, spotlight not so glaring amongst all the superstars.
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| Quote ="74'"Couldn't agree more. Look at Anderson now he was meant to be the next Zidane and look at him now.'"
When was he labelled the next Zidane? That was Bruno Cheyrou. I agree he hasn't lived upto his fifpro young player of the year billing.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"I already stated that....It would be nice, but won't happen.
As a 'hardcore Evertonian', I'd be over the moon.....Forget all the Judas nonsense, Everton are 1 top class striker away from challenging for the league and Rooney would be more than adequate.
The more I think of it the more I believe Madrid is where he is destined.....At the moment, he's on £100k a week carrying an average United team, his form constantly under the spotlight...Go to Spain, he doubles his salary and becomes a cast member in football's great cabaret, spotlight not so glaring amongst all the superstars.'"
Doubt it'd be Madrid. Jose basically piissed himself laughing when asked. "don't worry, he will stay at Manchester United".
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| Almost every United fan was saying how good he was, the next Zidane, the next Gerrard etc. He's better than Fabregas. They did.
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| Quote ="74'"Almost every United fan was saying how good he was, the next Zidane, the next Gerrard etc. He's better than Fabregas. They did.'"
No they never. I've never heard a single United fan come out with anything of the sort. He has played very well against Gerrard and Fabregas in the past. Even the LFC lad's who post on here will tell you that. I've never heard anybody label him the next Zidane or Gerrard. I know people likened him to Ronaldinho when at Porto but Fergie has used his energy in a different way at United and hasn't really kicked on. I'm basically agreeing with you i.e him underachieving but making stuff up is a bit daft.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"I already stated that....It would be nice, but won't happen.
As a 'hardcore Evertonian', I'd be over the moon.....Forget all the Judas nonsense, Everton are 1 top class striker away from challenging for the league and Rooney would be more than adequate.
The more I think of it the more I believe Madrid is where he is destined.....At the moment, he's on £100k a week carrying an average United team, his form constantly under the spotlight...Go to Spain, he doubles his salary and becomes a cast member in football's great cabaret, spotlight not so glaring amongst all the superstars.'"
i think rooney is at his best with world class players around him...... at utd he is almost 'last man standing' as a world class player..... its obvious he is chasing the next big club and massive salary to boot.... city.
if city sign Rooney.... their aggressive transfer policy will see him coupled with some amazing players over the duration of a 5 year contract.
presuming he stays there.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i think rooney is at his best with world class players around him...... at utd he is almost 'last man standing' as a world class player..... its obvious he is chasing the next big club and massive salary to boot.... city.
if city sign Rooney.... their aggressive transfer policy will see him coupled with some amazing players over the duration of a 5 year contract.
presuming he stays there.'"
Since the takeover City have been trying to get that "BIG" signing. Ronaldinho, Buffon and Kaka laughed. It seems Rooeny want's to be that man.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"No they never. I've never heard a single United fan come out with anything of the sort. He has played very well against Gerrard and Fabregas in the past. Even the LFC lad's who post on here will tell you that. I've never heard anybody label him the next Zidane or Gerrard. I know people likened him to Ronaldinho when at Porto but Fergie has used his energy in a different way at United and hasn't really kicked on. I'm basically agreeing with you i.e him underachieving but making stuff up is a bit daft.'"
he was a better play as a 16 year old as he is as a 24 year old.
you look at rooneys goals when he broke into the everton first team... he doesnt score goals like that anymore.
rooney was in his prime during those euros when he was a blue... england would have won that tournament if he hadn't got injured against portugal.
that goal against nal.... and the game he played when he came on... he was almost unplayable..... that chip after he beat 5 men against nal...landed on the bar after he totally mugged cygan off.
and leeds soon after... one touch..... he just drilled it in the corner.
rooney is class..... the best foward england has by an absolute mile.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Since the takeover City have been trying to get that "BIG" signing. Ronaldinho, Buffon and Kaka laughed. It seems Rooeny want's to be that man.'"
and he wont be the last...... lets be honest... if the rumours of 500k a week are even half true... every player worth their salt in word football will know who man city is... if they don't already.
no club on the planet can outbid them..... it sort of makes man city the biggest club in the world... in terms of transfer fees and wages they are certainly the most powerful club.
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