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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Our under 18's are as good as Anything around! So are our youth set ups. No doubt the 20's results look poor but the key players in that team have been plugging holes in the first team. the 20's set up in the last few years has produced Ryan hall, mcshane, watkins, bjb, chris clarkson so as long as the squad produces qualify first team players then results mean little.'"
If the U18's are so good, why didn't they move up this weekend v Wire as the U18's haven't started their "second phase" games yet?
When Wigan played Saints at U20 level last weekend there were 11 Wigan players that still qualified at U18 level.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"When Wigan played Saints at U20 level last weekend there were 11 Wigan players that still qualified at U18 level.'"
I think Warrington had 10 players in the team yesterday that still qualify at u18 level.
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| We WON 94-6 for God's sake. And although Clarke and Myler did alright the stars were Evans, Burke, O'Brien (who kicked 12 goals) and Fleming.
We have some real Negative Nelly's watching the Wire these days.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Saints 20's have been plugging holes in our first team all season too - we managed to beat Wire though.
Leeds' teams, at under 18's and under 20's, are FAR from "as good as anything around".'"
Still producing quality yougsters, hall, watkins, jones bishop, mcshane, clarkson. Which is what the system is for.
I never said anything about the 20's just the 18's have been as good if not better than all they have played. The Leeds 18's beat saints right?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Still producing quality yougsters, hall, watkins, jones bishop, mcshane, clarkson. Which is what the system is for.
I never said anything about the 20's just the 18's have been as good if not better than all they have played. The =#FF0000Leeds 18's beat saints right?'"
Didn't they get beat by Warrington?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't they get beat by Warrington?'"
yes 2 points very tight game! All the highlights are on the rhinos site!
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| Quote ="Milly"We WON 94-6 for God's sake. And although Clarke and Myler did alright the stars were Evans, Burke, O'Brien (who kicked 12 goals) and Fleming.
We have some real Negative Nelly's watching the Wire these days.'"
its saints, leeds and wigan fans trying to make excuses for our youngsters putting in good performance not the wire fans bar a couple
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"yes 2 points very tight game! All the highlights are on the rhinos site!'"
I couldn't find any highlights of the 32 nil spanking Widnes 18s gave to Leeds 18s up at their place
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| Quote ="Supapeet"I couldn't find any highlights of the 32 nil spanking Widnes 18s gave to Leeds 18s up at their place
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I'm sure non of those widnes lads will be moving on at first chance.
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| Quote ="magic piano"That's kind of my point - John Bastian has left a fantastic legacy at Leeds and I hope he achieves similar heights with Wire, but has his departure had any kind of effect or is his legacy greater than that?'"
John Bastian has really had very little effect with Leeds. The players were already in place coming through before him, and still are coming through. Infact the players Bastian did work with are the ones you are now seeing thrashed in the under 20's. Leeds juniors younger under 20's have certainly improved since Bastian left coincidentally.
Leeds under 20's problems is mainly down to the coaching set up, which is a jobs for the boys brigade, rather than anything meaningfull.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"John Bastian has really had very little effect with Leeds. The players were already in place coming through before him, and still are coming through. Infact the players Bastian did work with are the ones you are now seeing thrashed in the under 20's Leeds juniors younger under 20's have certainly improved since Bastian left coincidentally..
Leeds under 20's problems is mainly down to the coaching set up, which is a jobs for the boys brigade, rather than anything meaningfull.'"
Which one is it?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I don't think anyone doubts the quality of the kids in your reserves, but your first team is packed with players bought in from elsewhere - that is a fact.
I think from your team yesterday (including the three players making comebacks in the reserves) only 3 came through at Warrington (Riley, Harrison, Wood)?
I'm sure Saints and Wigan could field full XVII's of players brought through the ranks who have played SL in 2010:
Wellens
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Hopefully the current crop of Wire youngsters find their way into the first team in numbers in due course, they certainly appear good enough. It's fair comment, however, to say Wire have a way to go to replicate what Saints and Wigan in particular have been doing recently.'"
Emmitt came through OUR academy!
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| Quote ="SEB"icon_lol.gif Emmitt came through OUR academy!'"
He did play in your academy up to a point, then left and played amateur union. He then signed for our academy, perhaps from Blackbrook although I can't really remember.
Far from developing Emmitt, it seems he got disillusioned with RL at Wire and was lost to the sport for a while. He has been promoted to the St Helens first team via the St Helens youth team, which is the point I was making.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"He did play in your academy up to a point, then left and played amateur union. He then signed for our academy, perhaps from Blackbrook although I can't really remember.
Far from developing Emmitt, it seems he got disillusioned with RL at Wire and was lost to the sport for a while. He has been promoted to the St Helens first team via the St Helens youth team, which is the point I was making.'"
I did know all that, well done that you do too.
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| Quote ="SEB"I did know all that, well done that you do too.'"
Excellent. Strange that you would argue he didn't come through St Helens' academy then, but each to their own.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Excellent. Strange that you would argue he didn't come through St Helens' academy then, but each to their own.'"
I didn't.
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| Quote ="SEB"I didn't.'"
Really?
Quote ="FearTheVee"I'm sure Saints and Wigan could field full XVII's of players brought through the ranks who have played SL in 2010:'"
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Emmitt came through OUR academy!'"
Care to enlighten me as to the point you were making then, and the reason for the laughter, since you are willing to acknowledge that Emmitt did come through Saints' system?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Really?
Care to enlighten me as to the point you were making then, and the reason for the laughter, since you are willing to acknowledge that Emmitt did come through Saints' system?'"
No, he came through our system, left RL and then joined Saints. He may be completing his development with Saints but did much of it with Warrington.
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| Quote ="SEB"No, he came through our system, left RL and then joined Saints.'"
So he came through both systems then, yes? Saints brought him into their youth system from amateur rugby.
Quote ="SEB"He may be completing his development with Saints'"
Yes, completing his development in Saints' system.
Quote ="SEB"but did much of it with Warrington.'"
And much of it at Blackbrook, Rylands and Lymm RFC. Doesn't stop him being a player brought through to the first team by St Helens' youth system. I'm struggling to see why you're arguing the point to be honest, but as I said, each to their own.
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| Quote ="magic piano"When did John Bastian leave Leeds? I know he's only been with us a short while but did we get him straight from Headingley or elsewhere? I just wonder whether we are seeing his influence on both the Wire kids and the Leeds kids in action - his protegees from the Leeds Academy are reaping the benefits in the first team right now, while maybe his departure has affected the current crop of Leeds kids...'"
Why not come along on the 14th July and ask?
Warrington Wolves Supporters' Trust next event will be on Wednesday 14th July 2010 in the Platinum Suite North Stand, Halliwell Jones Stadium, doors open at 6.45 for a 7.00pm start. We will be holding a Fans Forum at which our guests will be John Bastian, First Team players and England International Academy players.
The theme for the night is how Squadbuilder is “Investing in Future Success" for Warrington Wolves. The event is free and open to all fans and it will give every one who attends an opportunity to find out how Squadbuilder helps with the development of junior players.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"He did play in your academy up to a point, then left and played amateur union. He then signed for our academy, perhaps from Blackbrook although I can't really remember.
Far from developing Emmitt, it seems he got disillusioned with RL at Wire and was lost to the sport for a while. He has been promoted to the St Helens first team via the St Helens youth team, which is the point I was making.'"
So Lee Briers is a product of Warrington? He was younger when signing for Warrington than Emmit was when leaving Warrington. I also believe Briers had become disillusioned with his treatment at his previous club causing him to want to leave.
I believe Emmit couldn't sign for Saints for 12 months as Warrington had his registration for the length of the contract he had signed with them. I guess he signed for Saints near enough as soon as he could and I will leave it for others to suggest that an illegal approach may have occurred.
(by the way it was myself who pointed all this out about Emmit on the Saints board in relation to the thread claiming Paul Sculthorpe was a product of Oldham!!!!!)
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| Andrew Dixon was from & still lives in Warrington.
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| Dixon left Crosfields at under 15s to join Blackbrook and St Helens Scholorship.
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| Quote ="Geordie"Dixon left Crosfields at under 15s to join Blackbrook and St Helens Scholorship.'"
Oh, apologies.
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