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| On the night:
*Leeds forwards > Wire forwards
*Too slow playing the ball (credit to Leeds)
*Too slow around the park (we aren't good enough against the best teams without our starting S/O and hooker)
* Some wrong decisions taken (Mathers a couple of times & others)
* Too many penalties given away.
* Overall 'Sloppy'
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| Got to laugh at some of the comments on these pages, think people should start watching both teams instead of just Warrington.
1st Ben Thaler grew up a Wakey suporter, his mother is a season ticket holder there.
2.. thought he had a very fair game overall.
3..If riley had twice in the 1st 15 mins, put his head down and run straight and King had,nt been forced out when going over, things would have been different.
4...leeds after 20 mins pulled warrington into a down-the middle tussle, causing an effect on our expansive game. This is where we lost
5..irrespective of who is missing or injured has no effect on superleague games. Every player on that pitch was deemed good enough to play for either Leeds or Warrington.
6..Carl Ablett is a very under-rated player and imo was man of the math
7.. Will people now realise that Bridge is a half-back and not a centre.
8..Will Mathers please go to Widnes as soon as possible. Has anyone ever seen him pass a ball?
9.. The better team won on the night...End of story
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| Quote ="Wires71"Whilst I don't disagree with your comments in the round couldn't we argue that, indeed, we are not punching with the heavyweights based on the losses against Saints, Leeds and Wigan?'"
Check the league table out.
Years gone by, we've been in & around Hull KR, Castleford, Wakefield, Bradford.
It's pretty clear right now that we're a level up from them, so yeah, we're punching with the heavyweights now. We haven't delivered any of them a knockout blow, we've not even dropped them to the canvas, but we're sparring at present, and looking good.
I'm sure Smith will have found things to take out of last night, 'notes to self'. Defeats at this stage of the season don't hurt you, not learning from them does. I see this as the key difference in us now. I'm yet to see a Smith side that doesn't respond to defeat, and I'm yet to see one make the same mistakes twice.
We were beaten by a quality side, in some form, at their patch, and gave them a decent game without being at our best. Lessons learnt, move on.
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| Dissapointed after last night. We missed Myler and Monaghan so much last night and those that came in as replacements along with a number of other players just weren't up to the job against some strong defence.
But lets look at the positives - last year we would have collapsed after going 26-6 down but instead we fought back and got the ball through some hands and made the score respectable (if only we could have started doing that 20 minutes earlier). I think if the game had been 10 minutes longer we would have won as we had Leeds on the rack.
Despite missing key players and other players not really performing we didn't look out of our depth against the current world champions. I genuinly believe that we are a stronger side than Leeds. COYW.
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| Quote ="jj86" I genuinly believe that we are a stronger side than Leeds.quote
I know you are only backing your own team mate but sorry, you aint a stronger side than Leeds. In fact although I was impressed with Warrington last night, I think we showed you how to play in these games. Mentally we had it over you.
Winning the GF 3 times on the trot against a quality team gives you that added edge. Not saying you are a bad team, just saying you have a lot to prove before saying you are stronger than us.
Guess we shall see if a few months time who is right
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| Last night was a well needed bump back down to earth.
We lost that game due to ill discipline at the end of the day. We were constantly offside or threw the ball around too much, costing us possession. I think I agree with PADDERS (God help me) that we have over hyped ourselves as a set of fans and we are not as good as we think we are.
I'd take a top four place at the end of the season, but I'm no longer expecting us to make either final.
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| no big disgrace losing to the champions, were not far off, if monas and myler were playing last nite we would of won that game imo.
KEEP THE FAITH,
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| Quote ="Harvey 69"no big disgrace losing to the champions, were not far off, if monas and myler were playing last nite we would of won that game imo.
KEEP THE FAITH,'"
Agreed Harvey.
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| I thought we were poor last night. Really poor. Lacked direction, stupid mistakes/penalties/offloads, yet we still only lost by ten points away at the champions. Briers wasn't at the races and we were severely lacking in organisation, with Monaghan out there as another go-to player I think we may have won that game. Hopefully we can get back into the swing of things next week against Huddersfield. Keep the faith.
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| Quote ="Wire Mike"I thought we were poor last night. Really poor. Lacked direction, stupid mistakes/penalties/offloads, yet we still only lost by ten points away at the champions. Briers wasn't at the races and we were severely lacking in organisation, with Monaghan out there as another go-to player I think we may have won that game. Hopefully we can get back into the swing of things next week against Huddersfield. Keep the faith.'"
Look mate I'm not trying to troll you and I like you always try to be optimistic in defeat but you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen the game was gone, as ts said it was too little to late. it's about the performance not the result. you are a great team improving all the time but you have lost to the pies, saints and Leeds. no need for you lot to panic but would be a little concerned. I know you had a few out, but Leeds had 4 of there front line strike weapons out.
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| Quote ="Harvey 69"no big disgrace losing to the champions, were not far off, if monas and myler were playing last nite we would of won that game imo.
KEEP THE FAITH,'"
and if peacock didn't get injured after 10, if burrow, donald and big Ali were playing??? if they were playing it could have been 50??? Who knows mate. Coulda woulda shoulda.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"and if peacock didn't get injured after 10, if burrow, donald and big Ali were playing??? if they were playing it could have been 50??? Who knows mate. Coulda woulda shoulda.'"
Fact, the score was 26-16. Stop trolling idiot.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Fact, the score was 26-16. Stop trolling idiot.'"
I'm not trollin mate, I'm chatting rugby. stop been so touchy No need for the insults. No need.
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| This is one in the eye for the if (Briers plays) = Win, else lose statistic.
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| No one claims that, 71, and you know it very well. However, I would argue it is indisputable that our organisation, creativity and kicking game is almost always better when he plays.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"It means nothing beating the big three. It all boils down to the end of the season as Smith says.
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Would you be confident going into the playoffs if you were yet to beat saints wigan or leeds? Genuine question.
FWIW I think you'll reverse the leeds and saints results at the HJ, and they'll be no more said on the subject.
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| Quote ="jj86" I genuinly believe that we are a stronger side than Leeds. COYW.'"
I respect your opinion, but I think it's slightly premature. Leeds have won 3 grand finals on the trot, warrington have just won the solitary playoff game (against leeds lol). Warrington are above leeds in the table, but I think leeds recent record should afford them some slack.
If warrington are stronger than leeds as you say, then they will take the title from them, or finish higher in the playoffs than leeds. Then there can be no complaints.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Look mate I'm not trying to troll you and I like you always try to be optimistic in defeat but you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen the game was gone, as ts said it was too little to late. it's about the performance not the result. you are a great team improving all the time but you have lost to the pies, saints and Leeds. no need for you lot to panic but would be a little concerned. I know you had a few out, but Leeds had 4 of there front line strike weapons out.'"
Who else has lost to Saints and Wigan this season hmmm
Leeds were not that good lets be honest
First 40 Wire were in control Leeds didn't get into our half till about 20 mins in and when you did it was off cheap pens which lead to other pens which you scored from.
Second half you scored with us missing King and then when Hicks went off lets face it you were on the racks and we bombed tries in the second half which would of made it closer not to mention kicks.
Leeds had 4 out so what we had 4 out along with King missing the start of the second half of the game and then Hicks for 10 mins where we lost the game.
I really wouldn't come on here crowing
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Leeds were not that good lets be honest
First 40 Wire were in control Leeds didn't get into our half till about 20 mins in and when you did it was off cheap pens which lead to other pens which you scored from.
Second half you scored with us missing King and then when Hicks went off lets face it you were on the racks and we bombed tries in the second half which would of made it closer not to mention kicks.
Leeds had 4 out so what we had 4 out along with King missing the start of the second half of the game and then Hicks for 10 mins where we lost the game.
I really wouldn't come on here crowing'"
He wasn't "crowing" though was he, he was responding to a previous post which said Warrington would have won if monaghan and myler played, he countered it saying we were also missing key players.
Let me tell you this, it would mean a hell of a lot more to a Warrington fan if you had won last night than it does to Leeds fans that we won and this forum and ours would be full of Warrington fans telling us how you are the best team thats ever played Rugby League, you take more fans away than anybody else etc etc.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Leeds were not that good lets be honest
First 40 Wire were in control Leeds didn't get into our half till about 20 mins in and when you did it was off cheap pens which lead to other pens which you scored from.
Second half you scored with us missing King and then when Hicks went off lets face it you were on the racks and we bombed tries in the second half which would of made it closer not to mention kicks.
Leeds had 4 out so what we had 4 out along with King missing the start of the second half of the game and then Hicks for 10 mins where we lost the game.
I really wouldn't come on here crowing'"
With all due respect al do what I like. Leeds defence was awesome last night. for the record I wasn't the one using injuries as an excuse. that was one of your lot. I was just pointing out that most teams are always gonna have key players out. We did in our last 3 gf's. It's the nature of the game.
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| Quote ="LEEDSLEADS."He wasn't "crowing" though was he, he was responding to a previous post which said Warrington would have won if monaghan and myler played, he countered it saying we were also missing key players.
Let me tell you this, it would mean a hell of a lot more to a Warrington fan if you had won last night than it does to Leeds fans that we won and this forum and ours would be full of Warrington fans telling us how you are the best team thats ever played Rugby League, you take more fans away than anybody else etc etc.'"
"you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen"
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"With all due respect al do what I like. Leeds defence was awesome last night. for the record I wasn't the one using injuries as an excuse. that was one of your lot. I was just pointing out that most teams are always gonna have key players out. We did in our last 3 gf's. It's the nature of the game.'"
You could shag a sheep for all I care mate.
The point I was making was it wasn't an easy Leeds win as you tried to point out.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"You could shag a sheep for all I care mate.
The point I was making was it wasn't an easy Leeds win as you tried to point out.'"
Where did I say it was an easy Leeds win? I didn't. I said you were well beat. Leeds had to do it tough. I also agree Leeds have been well below par for the first half of the season losing to the pies and saints along the way. That says to me we have been a long way off been real contenders. most Leeds fans on these boards are under no illusions about where we are at as a team.
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| Quote ="Wire_85""you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen"'" Thats not crowing thats how it went down you looked like you were gonna hammer us for 15 mins then until the game was Gone with about 7 mins left you got a couple of touch downs throwing the ball around like there was nothing to lose. for hour of that game you were out played. You really don't need to be so touchy. It's not gonna effect your league position looking at saints score. we can be honest about the game without trollin or dumby spitting.
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| I just disagreed with the "you were will beaten last night and the "we only lost by 10" is a smoke screen" comment the best team won thats for sure but I think losing by 10 summed up the game
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