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| Quote ="Wires71"I think you are letting your leftist leanings get in the way of balance.
I am not convinced the BNP are at all analogous to the National Socialist German Workers' Party in 1920. That is lazy commentary in my view. Watered down fascists/Mosleyism maybe. In the economic control axis of the political compass they are poles apart from the ideology of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.
Like it, or like it not, the BNP are a legitimate political party in the UK with 58 councillors, 2 MEP's and 1 member of the London Assembly. Indeed more councillors than UKIP.
The British public deserve fair, unbiased, reporting. This was not that. I have complained to the BBC, if you are interested I will let you know the response.
In closing, out of interest, what "violent history of many of the leading lights of the BNP" are you aware of?'"
I was using Nazi in the vernacular, not as a precise comparison with the NSDAP. They are a legal political party, yes, but that doesn't mean that links can not be made between their members (current or former) and violence. Fair reporting from the BBC. Violent party - violent ex-member - link made. Fine.
And you know that many of the BNP's leaders are ex-National Front thugs, whether they have criminal convictions or not.
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| The Nazi party in Germany was a legal political party which had the democratic support of a substantial amount of German citizens.
As we are all democrats, we should all respect that, if it is the democratic wishes of a population to support a political movement, then that movement is legitimised whatever foreign nations may think of them.
The National Party in South Africa were also a legal political party which had the democratic support of the majority of their eligible voters.
The ANC was an illegal party with a terrorist arm.
So who did the BBC and their do gooders on the left support.....the illegal party with the terrorist arm....
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| Quote ="Wires71"news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8460696.stm
For our more informed posters do you think if he was a member of the Labour Party it would have been mentioned in this BBC article?'"
There are a couple of things wrong with this insinuation, though, isn't there, 71?
a) The fact that the fella is/was a member of the BNP is directly linked to the fact that he was planning on blowing up some evil darkies. If someone was planning to plant a nail bomb in Machester City Centre and it turned out he was member of a Political party that was, for example, advocating a unified Ireland free of British rule, then it would be relevant information; his political interests are directly linked to his criminal activities.
b) If the BBC were as far Left-Wing as you suggest, would they not hate New Labour as much as you do?
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"There are a couple of things wrong with this insinuation, though, isn't there, 71?
a) The fact that the fella is/was a member of the BNP is directly linked to the fact that he was planning on blowing up some evil darkies. If someone was planning to plant a nail bomb in Machester City Centre and it turned out he was member of a Political party that was, for example, advocating a unified Ireland free of British rule, then it would be relevant information; his political interests are directly linked to his criminal activities.
b) If the BBC were as far Left-Wing as you suggest, would they not hate New Labour as much as you do?'"
based on the assumption that NEW Labour are sitting on the left ?
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| No because then they would like New Labour. Hitman is saying that if the BBC were the lefties that Wires71 is trying to make out, they would hate New Labour for being part of the centre-right post-Thatcher consensus.
It always makes me laugh when people make the BBC out to be "left wing". Have you ever tried getting a job with the BBC? Talk about an institution dominated by social privilege. You have to have the right links to get you internships, and the important jobs are all held by people who have been to a handful of universities, Oxford, Cambridge, UCL, LSE, etc. They use licence fee payers money to pay huge salaries to management, including lifestyle perks such as being chauffeur driven around London, staying in top hotels for meetings all on "expenses" outside their salary (which comes out of the licence payers pot). Hardly an institution concerned with radical social change.
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| I find it hard to understand that anyone can read a piece on this nutter whether it be written by Shakespear or the Beano and choose to highlight and complain about the inclusion of three letters....!!!!!
the bloke had nail bombs, grenades a booby-trapped cigarette packet, 12 Guns, a Crossbow and a Samurai sword.
this is from the Sun (not something Wires 71 will admit to reading) but
"BNP NUT JAILED" does exactly what it says on the tin thanks very much....
[urlhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2810714/Racists-nal-in-mums-house.html[/url
actually maybe Arsenal fans may have grounds for some complaint towards the Sun......
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Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"There are a couple of things wrong with this insinuation, though, isn't there, 71?
a) The fact that the fella is/was a member of the BNP is directly linked to the fact that he was planning on blowing up some evil darkies. If someone was planning to plant a nail bomb in Machester City Centre and it turned out he was member of a Political party that was, for example, advocating a unified Ireland free of British rule, then it would be relevant information; his political interests are directly linked to his criminal activities.
b) If the BBC were as far Left-Wing as you suggest, would they not hate New Labour as much as you do?'"
Theer are a couple of things wrong with your post
a) The court heard he was a member of the BNP for 1 year but he was not prosecuted for planning a terrorist attack. Presumably the CPS would have prosecuted even with a grain of evidence. All his convictions relate to being in possession of weapons and documents.
b) Nice article on John Bridcuts report on the BBC. www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... ng-bias.do
Can I recommend Robin Aitken's (25 years as a BBC journo) book "Taking Sides: Bias at the BBC"
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Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"There are a couple of things wrong with this insinuation, though, isn't there, 71?
a) The fact that the fella is/was a member of the BNP is directly linked to the fact that he was planning on blowing up some evil darkies. If someone was planning to plant a nail bomb in Machester City Centre and it turned out he was member of a Political party that was, for example, advocating a unified Ireland free of British rule, then it would be relevant information; his political interests are directly linked to his criminal activities.
b) If the BBC were as far Left-Wing as you suggest, would they not hate New Labour as much as you do?'"
Theer are a couple of things wrong with your post
a) The court heard he was a member of the BNP for 1 year but he was not prosecuted for planning a terrorist attack. Presumably the CPS would have prosecuted even with a grain of evidence. All his convictions relate to being in possession of weapons and documents.
b) Nice article on John Bridcuts report on the BBC. www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... ng-bias.do
Can I recommend Robin Aitken's (25 years as a BBC journo) book "Taking Sides: Bias at the BBC"
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| I dunno....Listening to the beeb's yoof output (Radio 1, 1 extra, BBC 3, etc), it seems to me that you have to be either gay, female, or of ethnic origin to get anywhere in that organisation, certainly fitting the leftie. PC stereotype that some have of the BBC.
May be slightly different at the extreme top end of the Beeb ladder, but its obvious that further down, that jobs are handed out on whether you fit a certain demographic, rather than a person's talent....Witness that talentless bint, Eno What-ever-her name is, trying to do a weather forecast on the North West news....If ever a person got a job becuase she is filling up a quota then there it is.
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| If its in the best interest of the British public.For the fact that he was a memeber of the BNP then it has to published in a news report.Because of the offence he was found guilty of,then i think the bbc had every right to menition it.
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Look at this right wing journalism from the BBC:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8469513.stm
Quote Six rugby league players arrested after a woman said she was raped at a Newcastle hotel have been bailed.
The men, from the Huddersfield Giants Super League squad, were staying at the Gosforth Marriott Hotel as part of a pre-season tour. '"
What relevance does the fact that these were Huddersfield Giants rugby league players, have to do with the allegations in question? None. It's part of an agenda by the BBC to try and discredit rugby league because it's a working class sport, and all the Eton and Oxbridge boys who run the BBC are diehard rugby union fans. I hate the way they smugly laugh at our game and try to force their right wing agenda onto working class people and a working class sport.
I shall be writing a letter of complaint to the BBC.
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Look at this right wing journalism from the BBC:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8469513.stm
Quote Six rugby league players arrested after a woman said she was raped at a Newcastle hotel have been bailed.
The men, from the Huddersfield Giants Super League squad, were staying at the Gosforth Marriott Hotel as part of a pre-season tour. '"
What relevance does the fact that these were Huddersfield Giants rugby league players, have to do with the allegations in question? None. It's part of an agenda by the BBC to try and discredit rugby league because it's a working class sport, and all the Eton and Oxbridge boys who run the BBC are diehard rugby union fans. I hate the way they smugly laugh at our game and try to force their right wing agenda onto working class people and a working class sport.
I shall be writing a letter of complaint to the BBC.
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Quote ="sally cinnamon"Look at this right wing journalism from the BBC:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8469513.stm
What relevance does the fact that these were Huddersfield Giants rugby league players, have to do with the allegations in question? None. It's part of an agenda by the BBC to try and discredit rugby league because it's a working class sport, and all the Eton and Oxbridge boys who run the BBC are diehard rugby union fans. I hate the way they smugly laugh at our game and try to force their right wing agenda onto working class people and a working class sport.
I shall be writing a letter of complaint to the BBC.'"
i see what you're trying to do here sal but the relevance in mentioning Giants is that there are 6 people and they have one thing in common and playing for the Giants is what links them together.
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Quote ="sally cinnamon"Look at this right wing journalism from the BBC:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8469513.stm
What relevance does the fact that these were Huddersfield Giants rugby league players, have to do with the allegations in question? None. It's part of an agenda by the BBC to try and discredit rugby league because it's a working class sport, and all the Eton and Oxbridge boys who run the BBC are diehard rugby union fans. I hate the way they smugly laugh at our game and try to force their right wing agenda onto working class people and a working class sport.
I shall be writing a letter of complaint to the BBC.'"
i see what you're trying to do here sal but the relevance in mentioning Giants is that there are 6 people and they have one thing in common and playing for the Giants is what links them together.
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