If he doesnt make it as a player he would always make a great cheerleader

I can't help but feel there must be certain sections of Wire fans with abit of a grudge against the lad if they felt he should be sacked off after tonight.

He didn't do much wrong in a team who's minds looked elsewhere. I don't want this to turn into another Mathers vs Gleeson slanging match but if Tony Smith can get the confidence back into Mathers after the way he looked shot at Wigan i think he can work his magic on Penny.

Hope Wire give him some time and I think they will.

Sad isn't.

Yeah he does get sucked in, but i thought he did well tonight. Especially getting peppered by bombs and kicks all night, handled them very well. Shame he didn't get a chance to shine in attack.

Don't think he did anything wrong today TBH. Flew out of the line on a few occasions but it's something you see a lot with wingers. Would still leave him out next week if Hicks is available, but early signs are positive IMO.

There is a reason he get's stcik but I won't go into that on here.

Gotta love a kid with beans and he is full of them!

If its what I think it is then I know what you're saying.

Always had this niggling feeling in the back of my mind about why certain sections of Warrington's support seem to dislike Penny so much.

Unfortunately no matter what he does a small
minority will always have a pop at him, think
its a jealousy thing or education ,if a player
pulls on your teams shirt you should at least
support them hence the term supporter .

made less mistakes and didnt miss tackles and end up on is most of the game like richie pat your back mathers did

Give the man a break, i still feel he could be one of the biggest attacking threats in Super League, look how long Saints stook with Ade Gardner before he started to become more of a consistent winger, the mans got talent, he's from Warrington, Why on christs earth do some fans not get behind him!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Ade Gardner can play for Saints and GB(England) then Kevin Penny can achieve plenty aswell.

I'd back Smith to mould him into a good winger. The thing i noticed about him tonight was how safe and solid he looked. He always been a threat and could score sensational trys but tonight for the first time i can remember he didn't looks like a rabbit in the headlights in defence and coped pretty well with anything we threw at him.

Good to see opposing fans can see his potential, both ourselves and Wigan have got some real promising players coming through along with St Helens which bodes well for the North West region as a whole

The game as a whole seems to be getting itself in shape and it's not before time.

Tomkins, Ainscough, Mossop, McIlorum and Flanagan are really looking the business for us and our 18th man for tonight(Liam Farrell) really needs to get a game soon. He's an outstanding prospect.

Ian Lenagan has said we won't be signing anybody for next year and if that means these lads continue to get opportunities i'm all for it.

Keep signing Aussie deadlegs isn't getting us anywhere.

he has gained alot of confidence from his loan spell with us seen as he scored at a rate of a try a game and that confidence clearly shown tonight
as many other people have mentioned he did save 3 tries and didnt do much wrong
if you aren't completly satisfied with him you could always send himback to us
we would take him of your hands

I'll defend him cocker.
He had a good game. Looked pretty solid throughout and saved a couple of certain tries.
What exactly is it that he has done wrong tonight?
Also, who are these better quality replacements that we should sign? Any suggestions?
How on earth can you say that he had "a shocker"?

The most worrying thing is that they don't even know why.

He shoots out of the line over and over again, he needs to cut down on that and learn when the time is right for an intercept or when he should stay on his man.

It cost us at least a couple of tries and a few repeat sets.

I'd like to see him do well but I think we have better wingers coming through, so he'll have to work really hard.

Other wingers do this for us but never pointed out. Why just penny?

Felt sorry for Penny last night as I knew that a thread like this would start. He did ok for me, saved a fair few tries, defused the low and high kicks aimed at him all night.

He does rush out the line but if he stayed there and let the inside men waltz through he'd get slated for that too.

I'd have liked to have seen how he would have done if the "normal" team had been playing and only Hicks had Swapped for Penny.

There were much worse performers out there tonight but none of them let the club down, they put the effort in all night and with the amount of changes to the team this was the only result that was going to happen.

Constructive Criticism is fine in my book but not on a team full of inexperienced young kids.

Spot on!

Team on the back foot, behind a beaten pack. Second half, christ knows who was at halfback, who cares.

Best opportunity he had was from a Westwood grubber in his own 10m that he didn't have a chance of getting.

Still, lets bag the enthusiastic kid, the one tried his best, did well defensively, dealt with various kicks put his way, stopped a couple of certain trys by being in good positions (that will go down as errors on OPTA as he didn't catch them) and would have scored barring Richards doing the same to him in the first half.

You could've had Lesley Vainikolo on that wing tonight, he'd have done nothing.

I find it interesting that the OP hasn't yet been back to explain exactly why he thinks Penny was so poor last night. Methinks he's sat at home watching the game again and can't find a reason, it's just mindless slagging off.

I remember thinking that was it mathers was it vinnie what the hells going on

Penny wasn't as bad as the first poster suggests. One thing I was always taught is if your the winger you mark the opponents last man no matter what which is something Penny needs to learn and quick.

You must have been watching a different game to me.
He had no real chances, got stuck in defensively and wasn't responsible for leaking a try.

Different game to the one you were looking at I think.......