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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Matt King 2008 was terrible.
Matt King 2009 Part 1 was perfunctory.
Matt King 2009 Part 2 is excellent and precisely what we thought we were getting (unless you thought we were getitng a Gidley type centre)'"
To be honest, I wasn't sure what we were getting as I don't follow the NRL. Anyhow I do agree that he is playing well at the moment but, as you concede, this is after a long period of underperformance made more noticeable due to the build up to his arrival and the speculations on the high contract value. Therefore, taken in the round, I believe he has not been value for money and has some way to go to make up for the slow start. I really hope he does.
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| Quote ="Wires71"To be honest, I wasn't sure what we were getting as I don't follow the NRL. Anyhow I do agree that he is playing well at the moment but, as you concede, this is after a long period of underperformance made more noticeable due to the build up to his arrival and the speculations on the high contract value. Therefore, taken in the round, I believe he has not been value for money and has some way to go to make up for the slow start. I really hope he does.'"
I don't think King will ever get much credit for what he does, for the the simple fact his alleged salary will always be a millstone around his neck.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I don't think King will ever get much credit for what he does, for the the simple fact his alleged salary will always be a millstone around his neck.'"
You may be right. But, of course, when you negotiate and agree an alleged high value contract, you accept the high expectations that rightly accompany it.
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| Quote ="Wires71"You may be right. But, of course, when you negotiate and agree an alleged high value contract, you accept the high expectations that rightly accompany it.'"
The crux of the issue.
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| king is the form centre in super league and has been for a while,recently i think he has been outstanding.
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£325k per year, or almost 20% of the salary cap on one player. What tosh.
I'd be amazed if he was on half of that.
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£325k per year, or almost 20% of the salary cap on one player. What tosh.
I'd be amazed if he was on half of that.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"£325k per year, or almost 20% of the salary cap on one player. What tosh.
I'd be amazed if he was on half of that.'"
It does seem high, remember a certain percentage is/was paid in overseas image rights though.
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| Quote ="Wires71"It does seem high, remember a certain percentage is/was paid in overseas image rights though.'"
Is that an intended understatement? If it was remotely close to that figure, it would put him far and away the best paid player in SL. I think we all know who/what the answer to that question is.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Is that an intended understatement? If it was remotely close to that figure, it would put him far and away the best paid player in SL. I think we all know who/what the answer to that question is.'"
Who have you got in mind?
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| 150k is the most he will be on. That figure is so high.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Who have you got in mind?'"
Record transfer fee in SL, cap dodging. Left prior to a testimonial.
Can you tell who it is yet?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Is that an intended understatement? If it was remotely close to that figure, it would put him far and away the best paid player in SL. I think we all know who/what the answer to that question is.'"
When he signed, I do remember the press, might have been the Aussie press, saying King's the highest paid centre in the world. Pretty sure they quoted figures of something like $1.6m Australian dollars, whatever that exchanges to...
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| That's all rumours though.
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| a massive let down has to be kevin campion. he came over with a big rep, saw wilderspool and had it on his toes. didn't even give it a shot. 4 grand final apperances and 6 soo apps. reckon he could have been a good player for us.
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| Don't I remember reading somewhere that there are only four (or was it five) people who know what King's salary is? I'm sure that "inner-sanctum" will take the information to the grave with them, the rest is pure conjecture.
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| Gareth Davies came with a good rep when he joined us in the mid 90's and turned out to be gash.
Dave "Doc" Murray was laughable as a RL player.
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| Quote ="Teddington Wire"a massive let down has to be kevin campion. he came over with a big rep, saw wilderspool and had it on his toes. didn't even give it a shot. 4 grand final apperances and 6 soo apps. reckon he could have been a good player for us.'"
you sure thats right, or is that including after he shat on us?
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| Don't care who this upsets but i suggest Andrew Gee. He thought one brilliant performance against bradford excused him being s**t the rest of the time. All it did was show how good he was when he could be ar**d. He really did my head in.
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| I remember there being a lot of hype around Desai Williams at Wigan a few years ago, and loads of their fans bought Afro wigs to wear in his honour, and then he turned out to be truly atrocious.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Don't care who this upsets but i suggest Andrew Gee. He thought one brilliant performance against bradford excused him being s**t the rest of the time. All it did was show how good he was when he could be ar**d. He really did my head in.'"
ooh, that's a good call that. i've purposely avoided nominating nikau, i've complained about him on here far too much in the past.
Tony Tatupu was another, we hid him in a safe house so the warriors couldn't find him, and was described by murphy as the alan shearer of rugby league.
Some say we went after kearney and got this fella instead...
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"you sure thats right, or is that including after he shat on us?'"
i think.....
once for the dragons in 96
twice for the broncos, the last before he came over to us, then once after for nzw
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| For me it was Steve "blocker" Roach. He had nothing but an extended holiday for us whilst Les Davidson played his heart out in every game. I remember at the time being really let down over his apparent lack of effort and commitment. World beater in Aus mediocre at best over here.
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