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| A couple of positional changes IMO will make a big difference.
Move Hicks from fb back to the wing. With Riley at FB, we return the kick at a much higher pace, and often start a set of six on a high. Under Hicks, we allow their defence to gt up in his face and get set.
This will allow Johnson at 3, and then suddenly our three quarters look a little more dangerous - Hicks, Johnson, King and Penny. There is some pace and strength in that.
Halves. Now this is a big issue, but I would take Monas out whether Briers is fit or not. Grix could cover there with Bridge, as I think Grix is being wasted at the moment. He can;t do any worse IMO at 6/7.
I would leave the forwards as they are.
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| Quote ="Betty Ford Clinic"i learnt today that yes "i wanna drink" but sadly the urban / bassline music is not my cup of tea and that i will not be purchasing anything by Platnum or N-Dubz in the near future'"
Them two was on when we came in the ground. didn't have a clue what it was
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| Quote ="Jesus Of Suburbia"icon_lol.gif
Them two was on when we came in the ground. didn't have a clue what it was'"
Certainly was different.
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| Quote ="Dave T"A couple of positional changes IMO will make a big difference.
Move Hicks from fb back to the wing. With Riley at FB, we return the kick at a much higher pace, and often start a set of six on a high. Under Hicks, we allow their defence to gt up in his face and get set.
This will allow Johnson at 3, and then suddenly our three quarters look a little more dangerous - Hicks, Johnson, King and Penny. There is some pace and strength in that.
Halves. Now this is a big issue, but I would take Monas out whether Briers is fit or not. Grix could cover there with Bridge, as I think Grix is being wasted at the moment. He can;t do any worse IMO at 6/7.
I would leave the forwards as they are.'"
I Agree about trying Grix at halves Dave, but I would not drop Monas. I would have him interchanging with Higham instead of Clarke.
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| Quote ="Dave T"A couple of positional changes IMO will make a big difference.
Move Hicks from fb back to the wing. With Riley at FB, we return the kick at a much higher pace, and often start a set of six on a high. Under Hicks, we allow their defence to gt up in his face and get set.
This will allow Johnson at 3, and then suddenly our three quarters look a little more dangerous - Hicks, Johnson, King and Penny. There is some pace and strength in that.
Halves. Now this is a big issue, but I would take Monas out whether Briers is fit or not. Grix could cover there with Bridge, as I think Grix is being wasted at the moment. He can;t do any worse IMO at 6/7.
I would leave the forwards as they are.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"I Agree about trying Grix at halves Dave, but I would not drop Monas. I would have him interchanging with Higham instead of Clarke.'" I disagree. Monas does already slip into the 9 spot at times now, and he is still poor IMO. His decision making on the 2nd phase of play is shocking.
He never knows whether to put his head down and run, or throw a long pass and get the ball moving.
Monas and Higham are too similar in style for me to use them both, and Higham defo gets the nod over Monas at 9.
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| i quite enoyed watching cas attack, whereas warrington had perhaps a couple of little plays between 2 or 3 players that came off in isolated parts of the game, cas were attacking with all their players working on and off the ball and had a brilliant shape to them
also thought cas had a great defence, which is perhaps why warrington's attack, in my opinion, was absolutely awful, although i don't think we gave them a particularly stern test
our defence was haphazard, which got lucky at times but more often than not was, again in my opinion, poor
to be fair i thought cas looked like a really good team and there is no shame in being beaten by them (questionable though at home), but i thought warrington were absolutely miles behind them and was gutted when i left, not because of scoreline but because of how dire i thought we were
i do however have total faith in the manager to turn us around and also in most of the players who are already in the squad to get back to good performances
i reckon our fans need to forget about where we think we should be and get ready to travel a long road to challenging mid-table and then on towards the top after that
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| Quote ="Betty Ford Clinic"i learnt today that yes "i wanna drink" but sadly the urban / bassline music is not my cup of tea and that i will not be purchasing anything by Platnum or N-Dubz in the near future'"
Certainly was 'urban.' And by 'urban', I mean a bit rubbish. I wasn't quite as vocal about it as the old fart stood next to me. 'It's just noise, that!'
[size=59Sorry Debs![/size
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| Things confirmed today:
At the current rate of improvement (and I accept he's been unlucly with injuries), Bridge will never be the top class half back we need. I still like him as a player and would keep him as a support role.
Hicks at fulback doesn't work. The ball has to be almost stationary before he picks it up and he doesn't even look to beat the first man - just run into him and keep it safe seems to be his only option. Get him on the wing.
Monagan tries so much but he's not performed like a half back I don't know why. He has a great workrate (yesterday kicked deep and made four of the next five tackles).
If we're going to play Kevin Penny - give him the ball somewhere outside our own 20 metre line.
Almost every fan appreciated the effort put in particularly in the first half. A few people booed - not in any way representative of the fan base.
We are where we deserve to be in the league table. A less than average team.
Even when we get soundly beaten - I'm still glad we've been.
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"I Agree about trying Grix at halves Dave, but I would not drop Monas. I would have him interchanging with Higham instead of Clarke.'"
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| Quote ="HJ Bird"Certainly was 'urban.' And by 'urban', I mean a bit rubbish. I wasn't quite as vocal about it as the old fart stood next to me. 'It's just noise, that!'
[size=59Sorry Debs![/size'"
Hey less of the old.....
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| Quote ="tino"i quite enoyed watching cas attack, '"
your kidding......??
in the first half they played the most boring five drives and a kick rugby as Ive ever seen in a long time...
one piece of poor defending by Johnson resulted in their only score.
second half they got slightly more adventurous on the fourth tackle and shiping it wide they scored three more "soft" tries and then the final one was down to a very tired mis-tackle from Rauhihi....
they were nothing special at all yet put 28 points on us.
and for our attack we couldnt deal with their Lying on, which I thought was ridiculous at times, and how Terry Matterson has the cheek to have a go at Huddersfield I dont know....!!!
The Cas slowing of the play the ball was worse than the time we played the Calatalans when they had 3 binned for it.....
did we have anyone in Gansons ear telling him the error of his ways.....I'm certain Briers (and any other Captain worth his salt) would have been on at him...
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| Rangi Chase is pritty nifty.
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| oh and in Answer to the Question....
I learnt that some people have been watching the club for 40 years....
which means they've seen one challenge cup win and not one single league championship
but they still expect to be watching world beaters.......
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"oh and in Answer to the Question....
I learnt that some people have been watching the club for 40 years....
which means they've seen one challenge cup win and not one single league championship
but they still expect to be watching world beaters.......'"
To be fair, why shouldn't we after watching for so long? We are now watching a team playing in a new stadium, with good attendances, a wealthy backer and a team of international players.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"your kidding......??
in the first half they played the most boring five drives and a kick rugby as Ive ever seen in a long time...
one piece of poor defending by Johnson resulted in their only score.
second half they got slightly more adventurous on the fourth tackle and shiping it wide they scored three more "soft" tries and then the final one was down to a very tired mis-tackle from Rauhihi....
they were nothing special at all yet put 28 points on us.
and for our attack we couldnt deal with their Lying on, which I thought was ridiculous at times, and how Terry Matterson has the cheek to have a go at Huddersfield I dont know....!!!
The Cas slowing of the play the ball was worse than the time we played the Calatalans when they had 3 binned for it.....
did we have anyone in Gansons ear telling him the error of his ways.....I'm certain Briers (and any other Captain worth his salt) would have been on at him...'"
If we were that bad and played boring rugby - then how come you shipped in 28 points? Surely we should have been predictable. If [iwe're[/i not that special then what does that say about you?
And if you say that [iwe[/i scored some soft tries, then by your standards you probably should have been nilled. For your only try we lost concentration in defence and there was one gap. You could see it coming from a mile off. So do you class that one as a soft try as well?
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| Quote ="Le Tigres"If we were that bad and played boring rugby - then how come you shipped in 28 points? Surely we should have been predictable. If [iwe're[/i not that special then what does that say about you?
And if you say that [iwe[/i scored some soft tries, then by your standards you probably should have been nilled. For your only try we lost concentration in defence and there was one gap. You could see it coming from a mile off. So do you class that one as a soft try as well?
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Yes, very soft. We asked nothing of your defence and finished our sets with a poor kick. The momentum was pretty much all Castleford.
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| Quote ="Le Tigres"If we were that bad and played boring rugby - then how come you shipped in 28 points? Surely we should have been predictable. If [iwe're[/i not that special then what does that say about you?
And if you say that [iwe[/i scored some soft tries, then by your standards you probably should have been nilled. For your only try we lost concentration in defence and there was one gap. You could see it coming from a mile off. So do you class that one as a soft try as well?
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I actually expected us to be nilled we were that bad
and You may gather as we are second from bottom, having 60 points put on us by Quinns, and Celtic pushing us so close that we had to bang a drop goal over, that we are not a good team by any standard, so putting 28 on us does not make you Brisbane Broncos
my post wasnt trying to prove we are good it was stating that I thought Cas were poor and boring. and us being cack does not alter that view
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"you're kidding......??'"
no not kidding, everytime i noticed castleford's shape i thought it was well organised, well rehed, enthusiastic and effective
a lot more than can be said for warrington's
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| I learnt that you should always check that you have the correct season ticket in your pocket BEFORE you leave home.
Not only is this exceedingly embarrassing and unnecessarily expensive, I'll also not be allowed to forget it for the rest of my life
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| yes i believe this may have some mileage in it......!!!
like the Clostraphobia incident in the bombay
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| Quote ="exactlywhatitsaysonthetin"I learnt that you should always check that you have the correct season ticket in your pocket BEFORE you leave home.
Not only is this exceedingly embarrassing and unnecessarily expensive, I'll also not be allowed to forget it for the rest of my life
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yes i believe this may have some mileage in it......!!!
like the Clostraphobia incident in the bombay
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| I learnt that Tony Smith isn't a miracle worker and there will be no quick fix and instant sucess.
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| I learnt that this is going to be a long season with many more defeats of this kind.
Hopefully we will sort it out soon, but how soon, who knows?
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| I agree. It might be grim now, but I'm sure Smith can turn us around. Even if this season ends up being a horror show.
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