Being a United fan you see this sort of stuff all of the time. Martin Tyler on Wednesday night was a the latest case in point.

You get to the point with all the moaning from opposition fans, that sometimes you want a winning goal to be unjust, just so you can laugh at their inevitable meltdown.

I'm half hoping for a last minute win against Wigan where Tompkins gets illegally smashed by Morley (who should have already been sent off) drops the ball, we pick it up and a forward pass later go under the sticks.

I think the viewers at home would see a breakdown in front of their eyes.

Sorry but I'm going against the tide here, in the context of the moment I don't think he said it because he hates Wire or that any 'true feelings' were coming out, I just think he felt for them in that moment. People's partisan opinions seem to warp their reality.

It was a nothing moment for me

Sorry but I can’t agree this time, I really thought Hudds were badly done to much more than the Wire in this game. Having said that, Wire were well worth the win and whoever they play in the GF it should be a cracker, weather permitting lol.

Wire seemed to play within themselves last night. The early taking of the lead by Hudds created the spark and we just held the game from there. The commentary is getting tedious to say the least. I was kind of shocked to hear Hemmings say what he did when Grix scored but thought no more of it after it happened but its the first ever time i've heard anything like it! Add to that, that i dont think he really hates us he is just a bit stupid

Agreed. I watched the game back and was amazed with the amount of praise we got, after reading this thread. The commentary team - perfectly reasonably - enjoy games that have a close finish and that are in doubt right up to the hooter. Grix's try virtually sealed the result, that was the reason I felt Eddie shouted ohh no. Sky give us loads of praise all the time - but even when they don't - so what?

Yet funnily enough almost every Liverpool and Man City fan I know is convinced United are the media darlings. This of course changes when you speak to United or Everton fans who are convinced Liverpool are the team that Sky adores. By no coincidence whatsoever both Liverpool and Man United fans seem to be convinced in equal measure that they are the ones that are hated the most.

There's absolutely nothing in it, just as there's absolutely nothing in this, other than people seeing what they want to see, blinded by their own loyalties.

The real idiots are the people who pay Rupert Murdoch £25ish a month for a Sky Sports "product" that is freely available online then get worked up about the opinions of those whose wages they are voluntarily helping to pay.

I think the fact they do us down is hilarious - we've gatecrashed the party, overtaken their beloved Saints, put plenty of noses out of joint along the way and done it with verve, audacity, skill, honesty, hard work and a hint of arrogance borne out of sheer ability.

Given SKY is in the entertainment business, viewers being entertained keeps the SL SKY team in a job and Wires are entertainment-personified they should be lauding us to the rooftops as evidence of what a wonderful game we have. If they are too short-sighted and brimming with resentment to see it, well tough - reach for the blood pressure pills or take up yoga Eddie, we kind of like this success lark thank-you.

I agree that not having opportunity to blow smoke up the ass of Stains anymore, must really wind some of the Sky (and BBC) team up.

The bias shown to those bunch of ##### during they're heyday was sickening.

I bet if you go on the Saints forum and ask them what they think of Sky's RL team they will say they are anti-Saints and pro-Wigan. The Wigan forum will say the opposite. If you go on any forum and ask those who watched last night if Sky were anti-Warrington they will not agree with you.

It's just daft. As I say, people see what they want to see.

One that gets to me is the grief that Phil Clarke gets. If you listen to him, he is the one who gives us the most praise. Ok he does have a wigan bias but he doesn't deserve half the grief he gets at our home games. It makes me cringe every time he is given the abuse he gets.

Also after reading on here about the commentary i watched the match back expecting some real Huddersfield bias.....there wasn't ! Fuss about nothing.....

Clarke deserves abuse for playing for Wigan

it was biased poor eddie and stevo were crying that myler was offside and why didnt silverdud go upstairs,only clarke put them right and the other camera angled proved myler was onside...it shut those 2 up..and saying hudds had not had the rub of the green and the penalty count was 7-3 in warringtons favour,make that 7-4 cos they got 1..its about time we got some calls off silverpud...just hope he doesnt get the final

The real idiots are those oh-so-trendy rebels who steal the product online, thus depriving the teams they supposedly support of the cash that Sky give them to basically keep them in existence.... cock

The problem is, Hemmings is NOT a commentator, he is a studio presenter - I just found the 'Oh no!!' moment laughable and embarrassing, simply because it made the sport sound amateur in what was one of the biggest games of the year.... Any neutrals must have wondered what the hell was going on for the commentator to get so partisan.

For all his many detractors and obvious faults, you would never have got Ray French resorting to such OTT rhetoric - Sometimes these guys have to realise they are there to commentate on the action and not try to force their nonsense opinions all over the game - Stevo's constant criticisms of the officials are quite ironic, as we, as a sport, always try to make out that the relationship between Players and officials is so respectful, yet that buffoon shows little for any of them.

May be Eddie had a few bob on Huddersfield to win .

He had the handicap

I watch a lot more games live than I do on TV, and I give a lot more money to rugby league clubs (in the form of gate money) than the vast majority of Sky Sports subscribers do.

I did however enjoy watching both rugby and football more before Sky took them both over, and I have no wish to pay extortionate subscription fees for a service I have little time for.

Yes, but even you surely aren't so dumb as to realise that those extortionate fees are keeping Liverpool FC, Warrington RLFC and all their many opponents in business.

By seemingly encouraging people to cut off their subscriptions by labelling them 'idiots', you merely show a naïve stupidity - Rugby League especially, would be dead in the water without Sky TV.

Number of years the Warrington rugby club existed before Sky bought rugby league? 119.

Number of years the sport of rugby league existed before Sky bought it? 100.

Number of times rugby league was declared "dead" in that 100 year period? Countless from what I understand.

Of course the game would exist without Sky.

Anyway, back on topic. Every team's fans think the media is against them. Even at low levels my mate from Grimsby advises me that GTFC fans are always accusing their local paper of being anti-them and pro-Shorpe! Of course Shorpe fans say the opposite. At "big club" level this magifies tenfold. It's still not true. Live with it people.

We could probably argue/discuss this all night, but the fact is, if Sky withdrew their backing, then RL in its present form would be dead..... There would be an amateur version, but the standard would be woefully poor, compared to now and it would be played in ramshackle grounds, because clubs like Wire, Widnes and Saints would never be able to keep up the maintainence of their stadiums.

Just checked wikipedia and Eddie Hemmings is from Warrington.

Sorry to just paste it from wiki but here goes-


In 2008, a bus was named after Hemmings in his current home town of Warrington as part of a project that recognised the contribution of local people.
Influence[edit source

On 13 February 2009, commentating on a St Helens and Warrington Wolves match, Hemmings called for the names and numbers on the back of the Warrington away shirt to be changed as he found it hard to read. Warrington Wolves recognised this and two weeks later, in a match between Wakefield Wildcats and Warrington Wolves, Warrington altered their away shirt through having a white background behind the numbers.

Aside from from him being from Warrington I don't think he's too bad myself.

I see both sides of it. I see the bizarre over the the top coverage of United and I see the odd things certain commentators hold against us.

I mention Wednesday night. Now I know people who have met, and have challenged Martin Tyler and they've come away convinced that he has no bias against United or for Liverpool. But he clearly had his own agenda on Wednesday and that was the return of Suarez. He was desperate for that to be the the story. Suarez being the hero on his comeback. He always needs that story and it's wrong. He should just comment on the the game he's watching and you can see the same in the Rugby. I'm certain this weeks story will be about Tompkins last game.