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| Quote ="Saddened!"You're the most obvious favourites since the Wigan-always-win-it days. Unless someone comes along and proves a Melbourne-esque level of cap rorting, you'll win the double this season. Bar a red card in a semi or final I don't see how anyone else is going to challenge you.'"
Wrong! Wigan are 2 points off the top, with half their team missing - and their best half too! They've had players missing all season, or most of it. They will have ALL but one of those back for the full second half of the season, and, when they do, for me will be favourites.
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| just to nip in before you reply, bert was an out and out fullback, and a lot more spritely than gids is. And we were very concerned about him getting smashed a lot in his last couple of seasons, it was worrysome, just see the 2012 cc final.
More importantly than that, gids is doing a bloody fine job leading the team around the field from the halves, his role would be changed considerably at full back.
It ain't broke, so don't fix it.
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| Maybe the enforced partnership with a proven playmaker has done Steff´s game the world of good.Last time he spent any length of time at halfback it was alongside Richie Myler & neither of them shone at running the game. Myler also seems to be benefitting from his move to Les Cats.
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| talk of moving Gidley out of the halves is utter madness. He is so well organised, and such a good defender that he makes life so much easier for his HB partner.
He does all the graft and gets the team in the right places, which allows the other half to go and play rugby.
Gidley would even have made Chris Bridge look like he could play HB, thats how good he is.
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| Quote ="ninearches" Les Cats.'"
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| Quote ="matt6169"Wrong! Wigan are 2 points off the top, with half their team missing - and their best half too! They've had players missing all season, or most of it. They will have ALL but one of those back for the full second half of the season, and, when they do, for me will be favourites.'"
Pah! Don't believe the hype with them. They are pants. They play the same way no matter who is playing, brainless hyper-aggressive rugby. You've got bigger, better forwards and your backs simply outclass them (Bar Manfredi). Even if Sammy boy came back as good as he was when he left they still wouldn't be better than you and the rumour is he'll be as dynamic as Paul Aitcheson when he returns. Granted they COULD theoretically beat you, I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion. Attitude and belief are as important as ability and club culture is one area Warrington have always suffered in. With Sandow's belief and Gidley's composure and professionalism you're well set. I've booked a week in a cabin in the lakes for GF weekend just in case anyway.
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| I thought full back was Gidleys favoured position at Newcastle followed by stand off with hooker a poor third?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"just to nip in before you reply, bert was an out and out fullback, and a lot more spritely than gids is. And we were very concerned about him getting smashed a lot in his last couple of seasons, it was worrysome, just see the 2012 cc final.
More importantly than that, gids is doing a bloody fine job leading the team around the field from the halves, his role would be changed considerably at full back.
It ain't broke, so don't fix it.'"
I wasn't disagreeing with you.
Although not playing Hodgson in 2012 helped shape our final loss.
I do however question your last quote.
If you don't constantly evolve you stagnate, the teams around you will evolve and grow and become better.
When that times comes, it could be too late to do anything about it and you get surpassed. Then your forced to evolve from a position of catch up...that is what happened with Briers over the last 2 years.
You get ahead of the game and stay ahead. Be like a flu virus ever changing ever dishing out a dose to anyone who comes in contact.
Like the thread title says. Is Sandow out a blessing. Yes it is. History proves we have to learn how to win from a position of odds against. Look at Wigan, ever evolving ever successful, and I t pains that shaat out of me to say so.
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| Quote ="matt6169"Wrong! Wigan are 2 points off the top, with half their team missing - and their best half too! They've had players missing all season, or most of it. They will have ALL but one of those back for the full second half of the season, and, when they do, for me will be favourites.'"
But we beat you with no Sandow and no Dwyer.
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| Quote ="ninearches"Maybe the enforced partnership with a proven playmaker has done Steff´s game the world of good.Last time he spent any length of time at halfback it was alongside Richie Myler & neither of them shone at running the game. Myler also seems to be benefitting from his move to Les Cats.'"
He certainly seems to be settling into a partnership and he looks comfortable and settled. Ratch's nature is to be an 'off the cuff' player, but hopefully he will be learning to be more structured in his play as well - because having Gidley there is almost the same as having his own personal coach. It will be fascinating to see how this all pans out, and if he can play in that spot without Gidley. But anyway, the main point is that the side has desperately needed an organiser since Briers retired, and now it has one. If Gidley was moved to FB we would lose most of that because his influence would be diminished. And the loss would not simply be in terms of winning / losing games, but in that all important coaching aspect. Leave him where he is and pray he doesn't get an injury, in my book he would be a much bigger loss than Sandow.
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| It's good that we seem to have another combination that is working but I can't view our most exciting player being out for approx 10 weeks as a blessing. If he was back in 3 games time I would maybe agree with the blessing in disguise statement as that would be just Long enough to have worked with Gidley and ratch but in all honesty I want to watch Sandow playing again.
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Really? I think Catalans look easily as good as we do and a fully fit Wigan are right up there.
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| Quote ="Irish Wire"But we beat you with no Sandow and no Dwyer.
Dream on.'"
And no Dodds BEvans and Bailey. We've been light in the props all season. When we get a full compliment we'll be a different team. I'm not saying they'll all get in every 17 but they'll all get some games and the rotation will keep each one of them fresher and we'll be a better, more dominant team for it.
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| when sandow got injured, gids and ratch were also carrying knocks, were playing better since they have both seemed to have finally recovered,
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| I don't think Chrissy's injury is a blessing in disguise.
With him we would have beaten Saints. All having him available would give us the opportunity to have rested and rotated Ratch, Daryl & Gidley.
But hopefully he will come back in mid June fresh and ready for the rest of the season.
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| No blessing at all, but the 'silver lining' is that we seems to have learned to play well without him. Ratchford is doing well at six now that he has been freed by Gidley to simply be the 'flair' halfback. Last year neither he, O'Brien nor Myler was capable of being the organiser which was why we were so flat in attack. Sandow should still take this spot when fit as he is an even better 'flair' player. It will also be a mistake to move Gidley, and especially to contemplate moving him to fullback. Russell has been outstanding there for us this year and is equally entitled to keep that slot as his own while his form lasts. A secondary 'silver lining' over Sandow's injury is that it has come early. Better to consolidate a place in the top four while he's missing, and have him available at the sharp end of the season where that extra 5% magic can be the difference between winning and losing silverware.
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| Quote ="Irish Wire"But we beat you with no Sandow and no Dwyer.
Dream on.'"
We beat [u YOU[/u????
Erm, I clearly said " [uTHEIR[/u" best players etc a few times, i.e. theirs, as in not OURS!!! I have been on the Warrington forum for 7 years, and watching them home and away for 35 years!
I was simply pointing out that posters coming on, who support other teams, and trying to totally hype us up aren't totally correct. Wigan will be there at the end of the season, and a MUCH better opposition that they are now. Granted, we will be too!
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| How could anyone not know 'prediction' Matt
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"How could anyone not know 'prediction' Matt
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Totally bananas!!
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| What's tonight's lotto prediction please.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"How could anyone not know 'prediction' Matt
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Haha - very good
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| No it is not..............
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| No doubt he will make a miraculous return from injury and he will be strutting around St James Park next week
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| Yes it is. Unfortunately the injury to Ratchford wasn't. Lol
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