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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"It was me that heard this from the horses mouth and yes I didn't produce the name at the time, but now you know'"
How far back was it when you heard it?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"How far back was it when you heard it?'"
1st August
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| Pretty sure he had played since then too.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"It was me that heard this from the horses mouth and yes I didn't produce the name at the time, but now you know'"
Quote ="Smiffy27"I tend not to believe every story I hear. It is so easy to make one up to fit your agenda & for a bit of amusement. Apparently?'"
So which is Smiffy? Either we have a wholly unprofessional set up in the opinion of a title winning Warrington player, or Snaggletooth and Fuzzy Duck are telling fibs.
I know which my money is on.
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| Jason Clark has said something similar and it wasn’t aimed at the players.
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| This is grim reading. Standards of professionalism should be set from the very top.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Pretty sure he had played since then too.'"
He last played 29th July vs. Huddersfield. I don't know whether he's been named in the squad since.
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| Quote ="Wires71"So which is Smiffy? Either we have a wholly unprofessional set up in the opinion of a title winning Warrington player, or Snaggletooth and Fuzzy Duck are telling fibs.
I know which my money is on.'"
Snaggletooth's dates seem a bit wonky with Amor's parting shot.
Fuzzy has history of passing on false info. & then not following up.
Impossible to get to bottom of this.
My guess is one or two are a bit gullible.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Snaggletooth's dates seem a bit wonky with Amor's parting shot.
Fuzzy has history of passing on false info. & then not following up.
Impossible to get to bottom of this.
My guess is one or two are a bit gullible.'"
You realise "I was in his presence when he spoke those words" and the other people there didn't include Smiffy27 so the wonky stuff is on your side bud and not mine.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"He last played 29th July vs. Huddersfield. I don't know whether he's been named in the squad since.'"
In the 21 man squad for the following three matches (but not the 17).
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"You realise "I was in his presence when he spoke those words" and the other people there didn't include Smiffy27 so the wonky stuff is on your side bud and not mine.'"
Your date (1st Aug) does not tie up with Fuzzy's date (which was last week). So we are talking about two different alleged incidents.
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| I was out with a relative of a player last night and he said the same, but it was aimed at the club, not the players.
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| I was speaking to the sister of someone who heard about the comments whilst they were hoovering up.
This is a real low point in the club's history & a full independent inquiry should be held. Sack everyone especially the cleaner.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I was speaking to the sister of someone who heard about the comments whilst they were hoovering up.
This is a real low point in the club's history & a full independent inquiry should be held. Sack everyone especially the cleaner.'"
So you would rather believe Snaggletooth et al are lying than accept these comments from numerous sources have some grain of truth?
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| Quote ="Wires71"So you would rather believe Snaggletooth et al are lying than accept these comments from numerous sources have some grain of truth?'"
Of course there is "some grain of truth". But we know, don't we, so why bang on. Anyway not really happy with individuals probably employed by the club ... enjoying their "wonderful moment" on social media and feeding the cynicism that surrounds the club. Not helping us.
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| Quote ="Wires71"So you would rather believe Snaggletooth et al are lying than accept these comments from numerous sources have some grain of truth?'"
being the sensible voice of neutrality on here as i am, i'd suggest that snaggletooth is right, and these comments are doing the rounds again on social media and the chinese whispers version is what fuzzy duck got told [size=20 by the communists[/size
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| Quote ="Wires71"So you would rather believe Snaggletooth et al are lying than accept these comments from numerous sources have some grain of truth?'"
Smiffy27 wouldn't believe anyone that says its Friday tomorrow, its just his way. Bless him
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Smiffy27 wouldn't believe anyone that says its Friday tomorrow, its just his way. Bless him'"
I still can't get my head around why you wish to feed information not once but twice to us about the club?
I am assuming you work for the club & probably won't be able to reply for a while.
Try telling me your reasons and let's see if I believe that?
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| If you recall earlier someone asked when I posted my original info and I furnished their request, for some reason you (as you always do) questioned the validity and I therefore retold that bit too. It appears that you like to troll and retroll anyone and every one who gives a little info about the Wire.
I do not work for the club, I gave the information back in August because it fit with the debate at that time and on a Forum like this that's what we do.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I still can't get my head around why you wish to feed information not once but twice to us about the club?
I am assuming you work for the club & probably won't be able to reply for a while.
Try telling me your reasons and let's see if I believe that?'"
It really doesn't matter whether you believe Snaggletooth, or anyone else for that matter, or not, or who they work for....
As long as it's within the AUP, you and the rest of us can 'believe what we want to hear and disregard the rest'. It's part of the debate and over time some posters gain reputations for reliability others not so and nor is that recognition universally accepted, as our own thoughts and agendas will influence what we think of others, cloud our judgement if you will.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Of course there is "some grain of truth". But we know, don't we, so why bang on. Anyway not really happy with individuals probably employed by the club ... enjoying their "wonderful moment" on social media and feeding the cynicism that surrounds the club. Not helping us.'"
We only know because Snaggletooth relayed the information which you then subsequently rubbished as rumour or gossip from a cleaning lady.
I think it's valid forum debate and if you don't think the same you can just skip this topic? But you seem to want to stifle any single debate that you don't like.
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| Quote ="Wires71"We only know because Snaggletooth relayed the information which you then subsequently rubbished as rumour or gossip from a cleaning lady.
I think it's valid forum debate and if you don't think the same you can just skip this topic? But you seem to want to stifle any single debate that you don't like.'"
Sorry I didn't think I'd stifled the debate just thought we ought try to get a bit of clarity on the very interesting topic of what Amor might have said & when.
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| I don't find this in the slightest bit hard to believe, regardless of whether it was aimed at the coaches, players, management or wolfie.
In terms of professionalism thia season has been a mockery; it's all well and good to say we've got international standard players - maybe that's exactly the point. We've got international standard players who have shown they lack international level commitment.
Personally, Ashton aside I wouldn't have a single wire player in the WC squad.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Sorry I didn't think I'd stifled the debate just thought we ought try to get a bit of clarity on the very interesting topic of what Amor might have said & when.'"
I fear you cannot help yourself from sniping and being disingenuous in your posts.
You have made remarks such as "banging on" and equating first hand witness accounts as cleaners gossip. This gives me the impression you want the discourse to stop and wish to discredit the poster. Just who do you think you are to do this?
A title winning player exposing the lack of professionalism within the club we love is of interest and importance to a good number of people on this forum. But I am sorry to say you attack the messenger and other contributors. Perhaps you are unable to tolerate the possibility that the story may be true.
However you are entitled to your opinions and we can disagree. You see because that is how forums work.
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