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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Normal weekend in 11 digit land some bird flashing her 3 wot nots after a drunken night out..was her tattoos spelt correctly'"
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| Quote ="Hatfield Town Wire"To be fair to RD, anyone who has suffered from covid who has been ill badly through this would agree with him. A lot of people many months after having covid, their health has been not the same, although athletes should be fitter it has affected people very differently. To many on here jump on his back for some comments agreed, but this is not one of them. I for one would think playing Wigan after a two week lay off being people suffering covid, could massively affect the score, those who have been ill badly through would agree'"
How many athletes suffer to that extent though? Most don't even know they've had it, added to those that are isolating as they're a close contact.
I'm not disputing the devastating effects it can have, mainly on the elderly. I almost lost a close family member last year so I know all to well the damage it can cause. |
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| Quote ="Fletcher-end-red"How many athletes suffer to that extent though? Most don't even know they've had it, added to those that are isolating as they're a close contact.
I'm not disputing the devastating effects it can have, mainly on the elderly. I almost lost a close family member last year so I know all to well the damage it can cause.'"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Which puzzlers me more why you question the match health/condition of the players that caught c-19 ahead of a game vs the arch enemy.
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Ultimately we won't know the condition they are in, only themselves and the club's medical staff will know that. They'll know if they're in a condition to play or not.
The point I'm making is that most (not all) young, healthy, fit, especially professional athletes will not suffer from it. Like I said, a lot of people don't even know they have it |
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| Quote ="Fletcher-end-red"Ultimately we won't know the condition they are in, only themselves and the club's medical staff will know that. They'll know if they're in a condition to play or not.
The point I'm making is that most (not all) young, healthy, fit, especially professional athletes will not suffer from it. Like I said, a lot of people don't even know they have it'"
Very true, the reason I addressed RD is thats lazy speculation, and is how ty rumours get started.
I had 3 texts in the afternoon after he posted that "is it true x player is out for the season? I've heard they've got long covid"
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Very true, the reason I addressed RD is thats lazy speculation, and is how rubbish rumours get started.
I had 3 texts in the afternoon after he posted that "is it true x player is out for the season? I've heard they've got long covid"
Responsible posting'"
If you believe anything RD posts, you're probably the same sort of person who thinks Bill Gates is putting a microchip in your head!   |
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"If you believe anything RD posts, you're probably the same sort of person who thinks Bill Gates is putting a microchip in your head!
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| Quote ="Fletcher-end-red"How many athletes suffer to that extent though? Most don't even know they've had it, added to those that are isolating as they're a close contact.
I'm not disputing the devastating effects it can have, mainly on the elderly. I almost lost a close family member last year so I know all to well the damage it can cause.'"
RL players will be more susceptible to small margins that affect their lung capacity and general cardio fitness, than the general population. It's like the average non athlete with a desk job could have a hamstring strain and be back at work the next day whereas for a RL player that might be multiple weeks out.
In the NFL last year there were a number of players who had covid, just missed a game or two and then came back, but were significantly below par for the rest of the season: Cam Newton, Miles Garrett had a noticeable difference in the before/after covid, Zeke Elliot had covid in the off season and had an unusual down year. Ryquelle Armstead had covid before the season and was hospitalised twice, he ended up missing the full season and was cut. He got picked up by another team who released him a few weeks later, so who knows if his career is done at age 24.
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They get oxygen after each ten second stint in that game, they should be able to cope.
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Quote ="sally cinnamon"RL players will be more susceptible to small margins that affect their lung capacity and general cardio fitness, than the general population. It's like the average non athlete with a desk job could have a hamstring strain and be back at work the next day whereas for a RL player that might be multiple weeks out.
In the NFL last year there were a number of players who had covid, just missed a game or two and then came back, but were significantly below par for the rest of the season: Cam Newton, Miles Garrett had a noticeable difference in the before/after covid, Zeke Elliot had covid in the off season and had an unusual down year. Ryquelle Armstead had covid before the season and was hospitalised twice, he ended up missing the full season and was cut. He got picked up by another team who released him a few weeks later, so who knows if his career is done at age 24.
If you were a Super League conditioner and charged with putting out a team that can run hard for 80 minutes, then you wouldn't want to expose the players to a disease that can lead to damaged lungs.'"
That is a hell of a lot of circumstantial evidence.
From the study below, 5.8% of people with Covid reported long-term symptoms, with 2% of those being severe. The percentage is higher in over 35's.
So it's would be reasonably unlikely that a player from the small group that had it would have long-term symptoms. Very unlikely for multiple players from the same team to have long-term covid.
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In the NFL last year there were a number of players who had covid, just missed a game or two and then came back, but were significantly below par for the rest of the season: Cam Newton, Miles Garrett had a noticeable difference in the before/after covid, Zeke Elliot had covid in the off season and had an unusual down year. Ryquelle Armstead had covid before the season and was hospitalised twice, he ended up missing the full season and was cut. He got picked up by another team who released him a few weeks later, so who knows if his career is done at age 24.
If you were a Super League conditioner and charged with putting out a team that can run hard for 80 minutes, then you wouldn't want to expose the players to a disease that can lead to damaged lungs.'"
That is a hell of a lot of circumstantial evidence.
From the study below, 5.8% of people with Covid reported long-term symptoms, with 2% of those being severe. The percentage is higher in over 35's.
So it's would be reasonably unlikely that a player from the small group that had it would have long-term symptoms. Very unlikely for multiple players from the same team to have long-term covid.
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Quote ="Jack Napier"That is a hell of a lot of circumstantial evidence.
From the study below, 5.8% of people with Covid reported long-term symptoms, with 2% of those being severe. The percentage is higher in over 35's.
So it's would be reasonably unlikely that a player from the small group that had it would have long-term symptoms. Very unlikely for multiple players from the same team to have long-term covid.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... long-covid'"
We're not talking about long covid here, that's people in desk jobs reporting brain fog, being unable to walk up stairs without being fatigued. I'm talking about whether it affects the ability of a professional athlete to maintain their fitness over 80 minutes in a high-intensity sport like rugby league.
Warrington Wolves aren't in the business of preventing long covid, if you're worried about long term health complications then don't play rugby league, loads of players are going to have problems with arthritis, complications from head injury and concussions etc. The players have already signed up for the and know broadly what they are getting themselves in for - like the NFL players do.
The issue here is about preparing a team to win where elite cardio fitness matters and players who can't maintain that are a potential liability if they can't compete for 80 minutes. If getting covid compromises a player's ability to be at the same level over the 4 to 8 weeks after catching it, its a problem. If covid hits multiple players its a significant problem, especially if it hits your best players.
If we're playing Saints in the Grand Final and 18-16 up with 4 minutes to go with Saints getting repeated sets on our line and a couple of key players are blowing out their booties because they are 3 weeks out from having covid then its a problem for us, even if long term their general health will be fine. |
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From the study below, 5.8% of people with Covid reported long-term symptoms, with 2% of those being severe. The percentage is higher in over 35's.
So it's would be reasonably unlikely that a player from the small group that had it would have long-term symptoms. Very unlikely for multiple players from the same team to have long-term covid.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... long-covid'"
We're not talking about long covid here, that's people in desk jobs reporting brain fog, being unable to walk up stairs without being fatigued. I'm talking about whether it affects the ability of a professional athlete to maintain their fitness over 80 minutes in a high-intensity sport like rugby league.
Warrington Wolves aren't in the business of preventing long covid, if you're worried about long term health complications then don't play rugby league, loads of players are going to have problems with arthritis, complications from head injury and concussions etc. The players have already signed up for the and know broadly what they are getting themselves in for - like the NFL players do.
The issue here is about preparing a team to win where elite cardio fitness matters and players who can't maintain that are a potential liability if they can't compete for 80 minutes. If getting covid compromises a player's ability to be at the same level over the 4 to 8 weeks after catching it, its a problem. If covid hits multiple players its a significant problem, especially if it hits your best players.
If we're playing Saints in the Grand Final and 18-16 up with 4 minutes to go with Saints getting repeated sets on our line and a couple of key players are blowing out their booties because they are 3 weeks out from having covid then its a problem for us, even if long term their general health will be fine. | |
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| Saints and Cas have called their games off this week as well.
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A two break after a cup final must be hugely frustrating for them, as everyone knows you win ever game in the coupe of weeks after a cup final
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| Quote ="karetaker"Awaiting Saddened response to this, that Wembley final must have taken a real lot out of both teams, I mean it was very warm. But in all honesty it’s becoming farcical now the amount of games being lost it’s just helping the Aussies and New Zealander’s validate the excuse for not coming over.'"
I’d send the WHO (not the band) over to Cas to investigate what must be the Ponty Carlo variant, as that particular strain seems to have run through the Castleford club about four times over now. It will go away when you ask nicely but only for a week or so and then it keeps returning, especially when you feel like your season is over.
The Parr variant doesn’t rear it’s head as often and is a less serious strain of the virus as it doesn’t impact people in the run up to important events and has excellent manners, as it will let you get the big event and subsequent session out of the way before coming calling. The fact you can predict the timing of the Parr variant is an excellent feature. Sadly the Parr variant does like to hang around the All Stars rugby league training camp, so understandably you wouldn’t want to send your players there. |
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Saints have to play 6 games to qualify for the play offs. They're going to be very busy in the next few weeks.'"
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"
If we're playing Saints in the Grand Final and 18-16 up with 4 minutes to go with Saints getting repeated sets on our line and a couple of key players are blowing out their booties because they are 3 weeks out from having covid then its a problem for us, even if long term their general health will be fine.'"
Yeah, good point to be fair. If Covid wipes you out then you're going to lose a lot of strength and fitness, very quickly. Can take a long time to build that back up again.
With two outbreaks (one this year, one last) already and all of our players being double-jabbed (probably) by the time the playoffs come along, hopefully it won't be an issue. |
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I’d send the WHO (not the band) over to Cas to investigate what must be the Ponty Carlo variant, as that particular strain seems to have run through the Castleford club about four times over now. It will go away when you ask nicely but only for a week or so and then it keeps returning, especially when you feel like your season is over.
The Parr variant doesn’t rear it’s head as often and is a less serious strain of the virus as it doesn’t impact people in the run up to important events and has excellent manners, as it will let you get the big event and subsequent session out of the way before coming calling. The fact you can predict the timing of the Parr variant is an excellent feature. Sadly the Parr variant does like to hang around the All Stars rugby league training camp, so understandably you wouldn’t want to send your players there.'"
The Wembley variant is pretty nasty by all accounts, it comes on the next morning and symptoms are the room spinning when you lie down in bed, a banging headache that feels like someone has a pick axe inside your skull, nausea and vomiting. Can take a good few days to get it out of your system. Me and a few mates got it on a stag do in Prague. If the Saints players had that I don't blame them for cancelling matches, you would not want to play rugby league in that state. |
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Very true, the reason I addressed RD is thats lazy speculation, and is how rubbish rumours get started.
I had 3 texts in the afternoon after he posted that "is it true x player is out for the season? I've heard they've got long covid"
Responsible posting'"
Well you got me, scrolling back thinking, I don’t remember naming a (x) player!?
However, my lazy post, was obviously highlighting the possibility of the extremes and ‘could’ being the key word.
I have heard of people getting C-19 and having zero symptoms. I don’t know of any, I know more than enough about my friends and celebrities who are dead and handicapped for life from it though.
I don’t make a throw away post when it comes to people I know dying. I think my post about our team being in less than peak condition for a game against anyone, let alone Wigan after a C-19 bout is also valid. Symptoms or not.
However I will be very happy if all our squad get zero symptoms and stay at the peak of their game to beat the pies. There’s nothing more I’d want from them currently. I’ll even be betting on Wire to win, as I always do. |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Well you got me, scrolling back thinking, I don’t remember naming a (x) player!?
However, my lazy post, was obviously highlighting the possibility of the extremes and ‘could’ being the key word.
I have heard of people getting C-19 and having zero symptoms. I don’t know of any, I know more than enough about my friends and celebrities who are dead and handicapped for life from it though.
I don’t make a throw away post when it comes to people I know dying. I think my post about our team being in less than peak condition for a game against anyone, let alone Wigan after a C-19 bout is also valid. Symptoms or not.
However I will be very happy if all our squad get zero symptoms and stay at the peak of their game to beat the pies. There’s nothing more I’d want from them currently. I’ll even be betting on Wire to win, as I always do.'"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Well you got me, scrolling back thinking, I don’t remember naming a (x) player!?
However, my lazy post, was obviously highlighting the possibility of the extremes and ‘could’ being the key word.
I have heard of people getting C-19 and having zero symptoms. I don’t know of any, I know more than enough about my friends and =#FF0000celebrities who are dead and handicapped for life from it though.
I don’t make a throw away post when it comes to people I know dying. I think my post about our team being in less than peak condition for a game against anyone, let alone Wigan after a C-19 bout is also valid. Symptoms or not.
However I will be very happy if all our squad get zero symptoms and stay at the peak of their game to beat the pies. There’s nothing more I’d want from them currently. I’ll even be betting on Wire to win, as I always do.'"
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