Cas have had a couple of false dawns already this season. Lets just see what happens next shall we . . .

Hard to predict as I didn't see the loss at home to Cas coming.

Wakey Wigan and saints and the hull kr game won't be a formality

Wakefield got a good result last weekend against a jaded Wigan team, who are having a small degree of internal turmoil at the moment. If Kev Brown is fit, hopefully we can put these away. Wigan will still hopefully be on the downward spiral, and granted Saints will be tough. I know that we don't have a great recent record away at KR but surely they haven't turned into a half decent side in the last few weeks.

Go with the right game & Saints are sitting ducks. Hull did it right but yellow cards let them down ,otherwise, they were the better team that day & certainly kept Barba quiet for most of the game.

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I doubt your coach will be silly enough and complacent enough to look at them as 'sitting ducks'.

Didn't they already turn you over with ease on your own ground this season?

They certainly are a better side than you make no mistake and I say that as a neutral.

Agreed. Saints are the best side in the league by a distance with 15 wins from 17. I think 3 games out of 4 they would beat us. But we have a chance.

We was beaten because the coach took to build on defence of the team that had only been fully together a fortnight, before addressing any attack.

I don't remember suggesting the coach would regard Saints as sitting ducks, but take the right game to them & Saints are vulnerable.

I found your comment very strange considering your own side lost at home to a Cas side just last week who were missing several key players.

Saying St Helens are 'sitting ducks' is little more than false bravado.

Thank you for your analysis of my psyche. Perhaps i need professional help.

Neutral? NEUTRAL? Since when did "neutral" mean "Saints supporter"?

Wigan.
Don't say I didn't tell you.

SW knows where they're at.
If Wire avoid Wigan in the semis, it'll be a Wigan vs Warrington GF.

You do if you take any notice of him.

This weekends results certainly put a little more clarity on the top four after 23 games. Hull are the only side outside of the current 4 who have any realistic chance of making it, but it is highly unlikely. We could have only 2 points separating 2nd - 4th.

Wigan have the toughest run in, in my opinion with games against Cas, Leeds, Wire and Saints, granted 3 of those are at home.

We are away at Wigan and saints with other games against lower placed sides.

Cas have Wigan and Leeds up next and also still have to go to France.

The race for 2nd is on.

If Hull were to win their remaining 5 games before the split we would need to win 4 or 3 with a better points difference to guarantee 4 home games. Hull’s toughest game will be Saints at home.

There is nothing hard in that run in for Wigan.

Could you be any further up Wigan's @rse? Are you really a Wire fan? Or a pie posing as a Warrington fan??

With three defeats in their last four games, not one Wigan fan would say there's nothing hard in their run-in towards the super 8s.

If you think Warrington will beat Saints away then you’re at best optimistic and at worst deluded.

History shows that Wire have a greater chance of bearing Saints on their home turf than anywhere else.

That is a fact.

My previous posts will show I've said more than once that Wigan and and Warrington have an easier run in than Saints.
I even gave it, it's own topic.

If looking at what is obvious is being "up Wigan's @rse", then I call in your greater expert assistance to wipe it.

It’s a meaningless fact. It doesn’t take into account that Saints are a fair bit better than Warrington which hasn’t been the case for the majority of time since we moved to the new stadium. The only 3 teams who I see as a major threat are Wigan, Hull and Leeds (more likely in the CC final than anything else).

In that case, can you explain how I can count on two fingers how many times Wire have beaten Saints at the HJ in the last 12 years?

We haven’t been at LP for 12 years, this season is our seventh there. We probably have a winning record at HJ in those six seasons because we’ve turned up on the day. There’s no doubting that generally you have been better than us from 2012-2017. You’re making out as though playing a semi final at LP means that you’re going to win. It doesn’t, we’d be big favourites and it’s unlikely you’d beat us. I’m not sure your record there is as good as you’re making out either, even if it is a winning one.