|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2340 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saddened!"I was on about the totals per club, not individual salaries. I bet I'm not far off with that top five, possibly Burgess at Wigan might be in there. Someone do some digging, the sport needs a good Excel based scandal.'"
can you imagine the tension in the locker room if everyone knew everyone else's wage
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Or thane"icon_lol.gif can you imagine the tension in the locker room if everyone knew everyone else's wage
'"
I’m more worried about the posters who post the supposed salaries of various players going into meltdown because they can’t just make it up, or maybe it wouldn’t make any difference to their witterings.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| LMS and “brilliant” in the same sentence, I will never be in any doubt who Saddened supports in the future.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
In the NFL players' salaries are in the public domain.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cash//
The transparency on contracts there takes some of the bluff out of negotiations. Especially in a statistics-heavy sport like NFL, it is easy to see how a player is performing compared to their peers (and as they get older, where they are performing compared to their previous seasons). Both parties have plenty of reference points for what the market rate is for a player of their position and ability.
Also players end up rooting for each other to get good deals when it comes to contract time, as they like seeing deals that "reset the market" upwards, which they can then use as a reference when their own contracts are up.
|
|
In the NFL players' salaries are in the public domain.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cash//
The transparency on contracts there takes some of the bluff out of negotiations. Especially in a statistics-heavy sport like NFL, it is easy to see how a player is performing compared to their peers (and as they get older, where they are performing compared to their previous seasons). Both parties have plenty of reference points for what the market rate is for a player of their position and ability.
Also players end up rooting for each other to get good deals when it comes to contract time, as they like seeing deals that "reset the market" upwards, which they can then use as a reference when their own contracts are up.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2456 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Staffordshire Wire"I think that Paul Wood is missing from that formidable pack selection!'"
Agreed.
Fez needs to step up .... oh, I am Fez
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 867 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I am sure I heard Jen state on the Super League show today that GI was not one of the top 5 earners at Warrington. For sure his salary still needs to accommodated in the salary cap but perhaps it dispels the "he must be on a whopping great earner" theory.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Or it means there are 5 others at Wire who are raking it in
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2456 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="The Railwayman"I am sure I heard Jen state on the Super League show today that GI was not one of the top 5 earners at Warrington. For sure his salary still needs to accommodated in the salary cap but perhaps it dispels the "he must be on a whopping great earner" theory.'"
I think you're correct.
At any rate I've heard that from officials at the club.
All the indications I've heard and read indicate he's got his hunger back, health back and is wanting to prove this to himself as much as anyone else.
A top class signing that I honestly don't see as a risk - or at least minimal risk.
I think he's played left centre, so I wonder if King will move to the right.
I guess Gelling may well not be back.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2340 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="The Railwayman"I am sure I heard Jen state on the Super League show today that GI was not one of the top 5 earners at Warrington. For sure his salary still needs to accommodated in the salary cap but perhaps it dispels the "he must be on a whopping great earner" theory.'"
Bugger i forgot to record it, i hope it's on catch up
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3726 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | Jan 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saddened!" You also have 3 players that must be in the top 5 earners in Super League in Austin, Widdop and [iInglis[/i, with the other two being SBW and Leutele from Toronto.
Are the actual total player salaries published anywhere?'" Wrong about Inglis.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9101 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saddened!"LMS is massively underrated. Brilliant for us over the last few years and we'll miss him. '"
I've heard LMS described in many ways but can honestly say that brilliant has never been one of them.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8019 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I could describe the annoying Michael McIntyre lookalike in many ways.
Brilliant isn't one of them
The others would not so much break the swear filter, more shatter the Internet
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 17337 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saddened!"In regards to the NRL or the best teams in Super League, not particularly highly as the standards have dropped dramatically. But when you compare them to the current SL sides, you're doing very well to have all the players you do for the money you are paying. GI, if he's even a fraction of his former self will be the best in SL next season, D Clark is world class. Ratchford, Charnley, Austin, Widdop, Hill, Cooper, Hughes, BMM, Philbin, Lineham, Currie, J Clark for me all fall into that category of good/very good Super League players and likely to be on big money, but not world class individually. A lot of trash still kicking about though with the likes of Akauolo, Mamo, Patton, Gelling, Burrell etc. Ashton a potential superstar and NRL bound if he develops.
I think this season would have ended up with Saints top and Warrington second had a normal season ensued, with the caveat that our coach may well be a dud and we might have been having a terrible season by now. In terms of the quality of players I'd still put Saints over Warrington (We walked Super League last season) but with the gap slashed due to Holbrook leaving, with Wigan and Cas making up the top four. You could well have beaten us at OT.
Next season if you just add Inglis and replace BMM with an equivalent or better you could well swap places with us. We've got 5 forwards out of contract, so a lot will depend on what is available and whether any of them stay. Rumours of LMS to London, Ashworth to Cas, Peyroux to the NRL, Amor to Wakefield and Taia retiring. I'm not sure if it'll be a difficult time to persuade players to move clubs given the uncertainty the virus has created, or whether there will be clubs looking to cut wages and a wave of players resisting that and looking to move.'"
Ratchford just good? Have a word with yourself....and I’m not even going to bite over the LMS quote.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Oh come on everyone LMS isn’t world class he is the next level up, I figure that makes him extra terrestrial...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| LMS would have been a good asset for us to have had over the last few years. Ratchford is, like Saddened said, in the 'good/very good' rather than world class category.
We should be realistic about our squad. The proof is in results. In the last year we've played 21 SL games and our record is won 8, lost 13. Fans were talking about being disillusioned with rugby league because we were so boring to watch.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sally cinnamon"LMS would have been a good asset for us to have had over the last few years. Ratchford is, like Saddened said, in the 'good/very good' rather than world class category.
We should be realistic about our squad. The proof is in results. In the last year we've played 21 SL games and our record is won 8, lost 13. Fans were talking about being disillusioned with rugby league because we were so boring to watch.'"
However, how much is to do with the coach. Look at the difference Holbrook made at Saints with basically the same player group that Cunningham had.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sure, but Price is going to be the coach for 2021, nobody is talking about replacing him. It wouldn't be practical to bring in a new coach with restrictions in place on training etc.
So the relevant question is, is the current squad good enough to win the Grand Final in 2021 with Steve Price as coach. Or more realistically are we looking at 2021 as a season where we are at the margins of making/not making the playoffs, and we're going to have players/coaches saying to the media "if we make the playoffs, anything can happen". Which is basically like my Nan saying if you don't play the lottery you never know if you could have won a million. There's a reason why the GF winners are always Leeds, Wigan or Saints. If 'anything can happen' then Hull, Cas, Salford would have won some.
Then 2022 as a rebuild under a new coach and hopefully looking to build a GF contending side in 2023 to 2025 or so. Fair enough as a strategy but signing Inglis makes less sense in that light.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 534 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2019 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2023 | Nov 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The extended interview on Sky Sports on demand service is worth a watch. Roughly about 20 minute long interview with Brian Carney; does seem as though money isn’t a motivator as when know he isn’t on marquee money and another reason behind joining Wire is a lot down to the relationship we have with the Rabbitohs as well his good friendship with J.Clark.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Sure, but Price is going to be the coach for 2021, nobody is talking about replacing him. It wouldn't be practical to bring in a new coach with restrictions in place on training etc.
So the relevant question is, is the current squad good enough to win the Grand Final in 2021 with Steve Price as coach. Or more realistically are we looking at 2021 as a season where we are at the margins of making/not making the playoffs, and we're going to have players/coaches saying to the media "if we make the playoffs, anything can happen". Which is basically like my Nan saying if you don't play the lottery you never know if you could have won a million. There's a reason why the GF winners are always Leeds, Wigan or Saints. If 'anything can happen' then Hull, Cas, Salford would have won some.
Then 2022 as a rebuild under a new coach and hopefully looking to build a GF contending side in 2023 to 2025 or so. Fair enough as a strategy but signing Inglis makes less sense in that light.'"
My response related to you saying we should be realistic about the squad. I don’t think we got as much as we should have from the squad available last season, I’m hoping Price has learned some lessons and will extract more of the potential and results will hopefully be better this season than last.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 928 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2014 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2022 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Funny season this one. Will depend more on depth of squads as much as talent. A lot of rugby to get through.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Captain Hook"My response related to you saying we should be realistic about the squad. I don’t think we got as much as we should have from the squad available last season, I’m hoping Price has learned some lessons and will extract more of the potential and results will hopefully be better this season than last.'"
I hope so too but being a Wire fan means being familiar with this situation from the Cullen years.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I hope so too but being a Wire fan means being familiar with this situation from the Cullen years.'"
To infinity and beyond!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 3207 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I'm hearing alot of people cite the friendship with Jason Clark being the reason Inglis has signed.
It's warmed my heart this one. Didn't realise Big Greg was such a sentimental soul.
Think this story deserves more mention, as true dedication and nostalgia for a friendship is the stuff of Disney films!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 364 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2019 | 6 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Shabino"I'm hearing alot of people cite the friendship with Jason Clark being the reason Inglis has signed.
It's warmed my heart this one. Didn't realise Big Greg was such a sentimental soul.
Think this story deserves more mention, as true dedication and nostalgia for a friendship is the stuff of Disney films!'"
Let it go fella, Wait till Harry Newman replaces him in a year for your head to fall off.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 16274 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Hopefully when Inglis goes we will find out that James Tedesco was best mates with Blake Austin when they played at Wests.
|
|
|
|
|